Plant ID forum: Agave; for ID

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Name: Dirt
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dirtdorphins
Mar 2, 2015 8:19 PM CST
I've had this little plant for over a decade and I don't know what it is -- hoping someone can recognize it.
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I recall buying it as an aloe...but, it is not at all like any aloe I know, so maybe it's some kind of unique aloe or a different kind of plant altogether Hilarious!
leaves are very stiff and smooth (except for the shaggy stuff), no marginal teeth of any kind, very sharp, pointed tips, with these cool white stripes that kinda peel off and hang out (more like a mini-yucca)
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It's about 8" tall and wide, and it has never bloomed. It gets a southern window and sometimes I water it.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated--
Thanks in advance
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Mar 2, 2015 9:15 PM CST
Don't know which one it might be, but I bet if it spent the summer outside it would bloom.Many types of Aloe are in bud or bloom around here now, and most will take some cold, but do need sun.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Mar 2, 2015 10:05 PM CST
Could it be Dwarf Yucca 'Nana'? Nothing in the database yet: Dwarf Yucca (Yucca nana)
http://www.bennyskaktus.dk/Y_nana.htm

Or another dwarf?
http://www.highcountrygardens.com/perennial-plants/unique-pl...




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dirtdorphins
Mar 2, 2015 10:17 PM CST
Oh my gosh--it kinda looks like it would rather be an Agave schidigera ‘Black Widow’ (even if it is a little sickly and stunty looking right now)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/177692307/agave-black-widow?ref...
http://www.artsnursery.com/m/blogpost.aspx?bid=159

What do you think?

Well, I'm moving it out for the summer (if it ever gets here)!! and I will repot it, too.
I've got sun to fry aloes, but this guy really looks like he'll appreciate it and that he needs it.
Interestingly, I have a regular aloe next to this guy that is currently all pale and bronzey in the sun, while I have another in less light that is green.
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Calif_Sue
Mar 2, 2015 11:33 PM CST

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It looks like an agave to me too but they are hard to ID for me. 'Black Widow' has wider squatter leaves, yours are narrow and long.

Another possibility:
Agave (Agave parviflora)
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dirtdorphins
Mar 3, 2015 6:19 AM CST
That is a good possibility too!
then, that way, the long and narrow leaves are not entirely due to my inadequate care Rolling my eyes.

Well, I'm thinking at least it is an agave anyway...and I'll give it new digs for the summer and see what happens.
If it responds by blooming and dying, then it will have declared itself to have been an agave all along Smiling
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mjsponies
Mar 3, 2015 6:42 AM CST
Take a peek here

Variegated Queen Victoria (Agave victoriae-reginae 'Variegata')

and here

King Ferdinand Agave (Agave nickelsiae)
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Calif_Sue
Mar 3, 2015 9:39 AM CST

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Those are two very distinct agave with wider squatter leaves also.
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greene
Mar 3, 2015 9:39 AM CST
This is a guess: A type of Agave toumeyana?
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tarev
Mar 3, 2015 10:10 AM CST
It somehow reminds me of a young Agave geminiflora.
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plantladylin
Mar 3, 2015 11:31 AM CST
greene's suggestion of Agave toumeyana looks like it may be a good possibility. There's only one A. toumeyana in the database with photos: Agave (Agave toumeyana var. bella)

Two database photos for Agave (Agave geminiflora) that look totally different from each other!
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Leftwood
Mar 3, 2015 11:37 AM CST
Definitely not an aloe.

I still favor yucca. Although, grown as a houseplant can make things look very different. Out in the garden, characteristics will be more true. This is Yucca nana in my garden in early spring after a typical Minnesota winter that it barely survives. Still, the normal structure is very evident.
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plantladylin
Mar 3, 2015 11:46 AM CST
Did someone suggest
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tarev
Mar 3, 2015 12:20 PM CST
plantladylin said:greene's suggestion of Agave toumeyana looks like it may be a good possibility. There's only one A. toumeyana in the database with photos: Agave (Agave toumeyana var. bella)

Two database photos for Agave (Agave geminiflora) that look totally different from each other!


As for that database photo for Agave geminiflora, Gleni's photo is more correct.
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JRsbugs
Mar 3, 2015 1:00 PM CST
Agave filifera looks possible..

http://www.lapshin.org/succulent/Kiev2007/Grishko/Agave-fili...

http://www.lapshin.org/succulent/plants.php?id=agen&s=Agave

Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Mar 3, 2015 8:52 PM CST

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plantladylin said:

Two database photos for Agave (Agave geminiflora) that look totally different from each other!


I moved the incorrect one into the generic aloe entry.

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greene
Mar 3, 2015 9:09 PM CST
(I know it's time to go to sleep because I just read Calif_Sue's post as:
"I moved the incorrect one into the geriatric aloe entry." Rolling on the floor laughing Yep, *Blush* these old eyes are going to sleep.)
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Calif_Sue
Mar 3, 2015 9:11 PM CST

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Hilarious!
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dirtdorphins
Mar 3, 2015 9:56 PM CST
Wow!
Thanks everyone!
filifera looks possible...and toumeyana
I am voting for some type of agave...
Shrug! mostly because of the meatiness of the leaves, the cool stippling and stripes -or bud imprints, and the fact that there are many more compact agave hybrids than yucca showing up for impulse purchase it seems.
I got it from a BBS mini-succulent half-dead sale rack many years ago when I lived in MN--it was called 'Bird's Nest' Aloe Hilarious! and I agree--definitely not an aloe. The lying tag also said to "Protect from frost".
It is probably amazing that it is still alive after all these years with poor culture indoors and I am quite certain that it doesn't look normal or as it should either, because of that.
It will be interesting to see if and how it changes after a summer outside Thumbs up

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