Miniature Gardening forum: Hardy to at least Z8

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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 11, 2015 7:44 AM CST
It's been 2 years since I put together a mini garden that lives outside. It's under a porch roof, so I control the water, but 2 cold winters have weeded out some less hardy plants.

What's survived is:
Graptoveria 'Opalina'
Sedum kimnachii & clavatum & rubrotinctum
Lithops gesinae
a Haworthia
Crassula tetragona & muscosa

I'd like to add more plants at this point, it's gotten a little too thin, even for a desert scene. Thinking I should explore other species in the above genera. What others have survived outside for you, from any genus?

TIA!
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Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Mar 11, 2015 7:41 PM CST
I left out in a pot this winter some oscularia. It did very well and would match your desert scene. I am impressed about the Lithops. I had no idea they could take freezing temps. I guess I thought they were more tropical.
Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Mar 12, 2015 7:13 AM CST
TY! I'd never heard of Oscularia, TY for turning me onto it. Do you know which one you have? Saw a few diff leaf types on an image search. What a cute plants! Your avatar pic is really pretty, BTW!

I've been on the edge of my seat about the Lithops too, sure every time I go to check on them they'll be mushy, but so far so good. From meshing my yet minor experience with them to the anecdotes and advice out there, the key seems to be to make sure they are dry when cold.

And in general, there's SO much said about succulents and root rot, that I started combating that before adding any plants. The planter is made of wood, so I also don't want it to rot unnecessarily quickly from being too moist (a huge challenge in steamy south AL!) It's coated with urethane, has a TON of holes drilled in the bottom, and is on legs. I cut the sides off of a couple plastic flat-trays that 6-pack plants are sold in, and put those upside-down on the bottom. So in most places, there's a bit of a gap between the soil and the planter, or at least there was. This probably resulted in an uneven surface on the bottom, making it less likely for water to pool. Decomposition of the organic bits in the soil mix will probably lead to those spaces being filled with debris eventually. Whenever the planter does deteriorate, I'll find out!
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Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Mar 12, 2015 11:03 AM CST
Thanks for the compliment on my avatar. It was a fireplace bottom I had on my deck. It unfortunately fell apart while trying to move it in for winter one year. I am pretty sure my husband was happy it did. It was super heavy.

As far as the kind of oscularia I have I am not completely sure of the right name. It grows out and spills over the pot rather than the other kind that grows straight up. I saw a debate on a thread somewhere here on this site about it, but can not remember where that discussion was. I will do a little research tonight and see if I can get a picture for you.

Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Mar 12, 2015 10:15 PM CST
I searched for a while tonight and now remember why I still feel unsure of what kind of oscularia I actually have. I still need to take a pic for you. I thought I had one but can not find it. Mine has 3 or more teeth on each side of leaf with red stems. As far as I know this is oscularia deltoids. If you would like being cross eyed read this thread ......

The thread "Same photos in two species. Lampranthus deltoids and Oscularia vredenbugensis" in Cactus and Tender Succulents forum

This is not the thread I was thinking of earlier, but is a good example of why there is so much confusion. Sorry, if I had known this would be so complicated I would not have suggested it.

Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Mar 13, 2015 12:39 AM CST
Finally found a picture. This is from last year. The picture does not show the new growth of red stems. It has been in severely neglected situations since I got it a little over two years ago as a tiny cutting with only three leaves. It has been in full sun all day and never watered except for the rare rain.. Has made it to 21 degrees for two days in a row as a small cutting. It will have much more vigor with actual care.
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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 13, 2015 7:37 AM CST
A visual reference supersedes the name when shopping by sight, and since plants are so rarely labeled. I think I would recognize this guy, TYVM for the pic! Sounds like just the kind of survivor that would make a good addition & the tiny foliage is just right. Interesting color too! I like that a lot.
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eclayne
Mar 19, 2015 10:56 PM CST

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Here's a few they grow at Smith College, z6a.
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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 20, 2015 7:38 AM CST
Those are all awesome! TYVM for posting the pics & links! I would have never dreamed any Echeveria would be so hardy.
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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 20, 2015 12:11 PM CST
This plant is leaning because the light is always on 1 side, but I think otherwise happy.

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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Mar 23, 2015 9:56 AM CST
This pot was outside all winter. Looks like 2 little Sedums are still alive (with Sedeveria, I think, and Tradescantia sillamontana.)
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