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Jun 18, 2015 3:32 PM CST
Name: tk
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Wonder if a person from TX could live in NY? Maybe living cloise to Rita would help me stand the winters?
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Jun 18, 2015 4:02 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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texaskitty111 said:Wonder if a person from TX could live in NY? Maybe living cloise to Rita would help me stand the winters?


Trust me, you would not like the winters here!
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Jun 18, 2015 5:00 PM CST
Name: tk
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I believe it as I hate tx winters, and I've never seen it below 15°, and that's rare
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Jun 18, 2015 6:27 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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Mary, I don't think that is a squash bug, but rather a leaf footed hopper. NASTY buggars!!!

Edited to add: Looking at more images, I'm not clear on that now. They look similar but the leaf footed hopper has those thick legs. At any rate, squash bugs are ick! I just squish them when I see them, but only if I have my gloves on. I do keep a jar of soapy water with me too. Mainly I have been using that for the Japanese beetles.
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Jun 18, 2015 9:26 PM CST
Name: Mary
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No, it's definitely a squash bug. This one doesn't like any other kind of plant, and is smaller than the leaf footed hopper. It doesn't hop, just crawls, so they are easy to catch. When squished, they give off a sharp, unpleasant smell. So, into the jug of water they go. I'll be on the hunt for them every day for the next few months.
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Jun 19, 2015 9:31 AM CST
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Name: Rita
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MaryE said:No, it's definitely a squash bug. This one doesn't like any other kind of plant, and is smaller than the leaf footed hopper. It doesn't hop, just crawls, so they are easy to catch. When squished, they give off a sharp, unpleasant smell. So, into the jug of water they go. I'll be on the hunt for them every day for the next few months.


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Jun 19, 2015 1:59 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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We enjoyed our first sweet corn of the year today! Spring Treat from Johnny's

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-6...

Not much to take to market. Beans, cukes, a few tomatoes and some potatoes as well as bouquets. Oh, Chinese Purple garlic too. The others are still drying.

The garden is so overgrown with grass we'll be mowing and weeding all of next week!
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Jun 19, 2015 2:04 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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abhege said:We enjoyed our first sweet corn of the year today! Spring Treat from Johnny's

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-6...

Not much to take to market. Beans, cukes, a few tomatoes and some potatoes as well as bouquets. Oh, Chinese Purple garlic too. The others are still drying.

The garden is so overgrown with grass we'll be mowing and weeding all of next week!


Oh the fresh corn sounds marvelous!

You have beans, my beans are not even planted as yet because I only weeded the area I am going to plant them in yesterday. After that I got out my box of seeds. But haven't done anything because I am still wondering what type of support I can rig up for them. I used the cages I normally grow my beans on for tomatoes already.

I have some bamboo poles and will have to make something with them I think. Of course I could simply plant bush beans and might just plant some of each type.
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Jun 19, 2015 3:01 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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It is a strange thing but my topside middle back garden bed used to be all veggies. Was actually my biggest veggie bed. After I got the daylily crazies I filled up various ornamental beds with daylilies and then when I just HAD to have more took both ends of the veggie garden back there. That worked fine but eventually I took the middle too and no more veggies there. I loved the way it looked in flowers but I knew I would regret the lack of extra room for veggies. Yup, afew years and that space started to be converted back to a veggie garden again.

So now I am looking to see how I can expand to add another row for cucumbers. The land is there but that end has a daylily garden. I don't want to part with those daylilies, they are among my favorites. So have been thinking what to do.

I think I will relocate one entire row (the one directly in contact with the veggie garden) into the daylily garden at the other end. There is room there even if it will be difficult to actually work there.

I will have to wait until the serviceberries are done as I will have to cut the shrubs back in order to give myself room. After I do that I can see what else needs moving and hopefully just shift it over into empty spots more along the edge of the garden. Sounds like a lot of work and it will be but I think it might work.

Then I can shift one cucumber row all the way over and put another at the opposite end.
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Jun 19, 2015 3:25 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Rita - can you use either the side of the garage (the wall) or the side of the house?

My friend grew morning glory vines at the side and rear of her home to keep the heat outside, where it belonged.
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Jun 19, 2015 3:46 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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pirl said:Rita - can you use either the side of the garage (the wall) or the side of the house?

My friend grew morning glory vines at the side and rear of her home to keep the heat outside, where it belonged.
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Yes, I can use the side wall of the garage but I still would be needing something for the beans to actually climb up. I like that picture. Maybe I can find a spare trellis somewhere.
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Jun 19, 2015 3:57 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Agway sells the clear vinyl product that either beans or cukes could use. If you decide on something more permanent maybe a brother, son or husband of one of your friends who gets produce from you, could screw wood to the siding and then you could add the product - wish I could think of the name of it!
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Jun 19, 2015 3:58 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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pirl said:Agway sells the clear vinyl product that either beans or cukes could use. If you decide on something more permanent maybe a brother, son or husband of one of your friends who gets produce from you, could screw wood to the siding and then you could add the product - wish I could think of the name of it!


I will look into it. Thanks.
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Jun 19, 2015 5:08 PM CST
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Trellis netting? I've noticed several offers online for those. It's described as 5'x30', almost invisible nylon netting with 5"x7" openings.




pirl said:Rita - can you use either the side of the garage (the wall) or the side of the house?

My friend grew morning glory vines at the side and rear of her home to keep the heat outside, where it belonged.
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I'm doing the same with passiflora this year...with cucumbers and squash trellised a bit further out to the south. It's quite a space saving deal right now, but I'm not so sure I didn't overfill the space...we'll see. At least it's helping to shade a hot spot...where there used to be a huge shade tree. Smiling
I should have painted the old gate first, before I put it up, but ...maybe next year. I wasn't sure about this plant, so I just considered it a trial-run this year. Maybe I'll get some of the clear netting next year, too...I like it!


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Jun 19, 2015 5:14 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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It looks good to me!
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Jun 19, 2015 6:48 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Thank you, Chelle - you nailed it. When we had our vegetable garden my husband used it for both beans and cukes.
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Jun 19, 2015 6:53 PM CST
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That's what I use for my beans too. I'm going to get more to use for the cucumbers and melons next year.
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Jun 21, 2015 4:01 AM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville SC (Zone 7b)
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My husband made a 6-foot tall a-frame support that I position over beds, right now I have cukes and pole beans sharing it, stapled vinyl trellis n
netting to one side and the pickling dukes have gone crazy. Its a jungle of pole beans and cukes that gives us large helpings every other day. Plus it looks nice. Vertical gardening is the way to go.
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Jun 21, 2015 10:19 AM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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SCButtercup said:My husband made a 6-foot tall a-frame support that I position over beds, right now I have dukes and pole beans sharing it, stapled vinyl trellis n
netting to one side and the pickling dukes have gone crazy. Its a jungle of pole beans and dukes that gives us large helpings every other day. Plus it looks nice. Vertical gardening is the way to go.


Yes, it really saves a lot of space to go that way. Always looking to save space in the garden!
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Jun 21, 2015 10:24 AM CST
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Name: Rita
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