Permaculture forum: Introduction to Permaculture

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hazelnut
Mar 26, 2015 1:44 PM CST
For people exploring the permacuture concept, there are some ideas more basic than others. This thread is for the very basics of permaculture, to introduce novices to the basic concepts. If anyone has any basic favorites, feel free to post them here.

Masanabu Fukuoka.

THE ONE STRAW REVOLUTION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8atbgaiekZI

NATURAL FARMING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft0ylk4sU5M

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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 26, 2015 2:19 PM CST
Holy smokes! You're a wealth of info and generous for posting links! Will definitely explore.

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hazelnut
Mar 26, 2015 2:30 PM CST
Shadegardener. If you have any favorite basics please feel free to post a link. I am finding possibly the reason for lack of traffic on this forum is because people think--can't go there, I don't know what permaculture is. If the forum is for learning what permaculture is, that should not be an excuse.

Yep. Everybody should know who Masanabu Fukuoka is. [There will not be a final exam!]
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 26, 2015 3:40 PM CST
Glad to hear there's no exam - it's been a while since I pulled an all-nighter. Where's my No-Doz? :)
Since I am a major newbie, I don't have any favorite sites yet. I do want to explore some of the online info available though. I know IU-Bloomington teaches courses and I think there's an urban-based group in Chicago that I want to check out to get ideas for more "localized" plants. Yes, I agree about Fukuoka. And Mollison and Holmgren. I'm not sure how some of the other writers "rate" in terms of knowledge and implementation. The "intro" book is great because it somewhat lends itself to a few different landscapes and dwellings. Perhaps you know of a writer who can relate to North American gardeners? (you are far more well-read on this subject) Mollison does it a bit in his intro book but it might be more of a "big project" for a lot of general gardeners. I think if folks know that they can break the whole subject down into parts that they can implement easily or a step at a time, that would appeal to more folks. Every little bit helps the planet.
I'm just truly happy to find a forum with so much information at hand.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 26, 2015 3:55 PM CST
I know the importance of the whole permaculture picture but is there any way to work in "sustainable" earmarks? More folks are familiar with that concept or phrase.

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hazelnut
Mar 26, 2015 3:56 PM CST
http://www.patternliteracy.com/. Toby Hemenway would be the guy for North America. He is located mostly in the Washington/Oregon area though. I think there is another guy in Maine or East/Canada also. When you live a long time though, sometimes people you think are there, are not there anymore (!) Permies.com is a northern oriented forum run by Paul Wheaton.
Warning though, he ran me off for mentioning the word "glyphosate". This group would probably be the closest one to Indiana. I remember one of the participants turned out to live near my old home place in Michigan (near Traverse City).
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hazelnut
Mar 26, 2015 3:58 PM CST
Posted at the same time.
Sustainable earmarks"? I am not familiar with that phrase.

Search page for Indiana Permaculture

http://frontpage.pch.com/search?q=permaculture+Indiana&cat=w...

Looks like quite a lot of activity in your area.

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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Mar 26, 2015 8:20 PM CST
Wow ! That is a lot of information to absorb.

Thank you for the links.

Smiles,
Lyn
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Dave Paul
Puna, HI (Zone 10b)
Live in a rainforest, get wet feet.
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Metrosideros
Mar 26, 2015 11:23 PM CST
The Korean natural farming hit big here with the hippies.

The old timers said, that's what we've always been doing.


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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 27, 2015 8:49 AM CST
Thanks for posting even more links. I did watch the video of Fukuoka as I had never seen one before. I will explore permies.com even further. Between that and the Bloomington links, I should fall geographically in the middle. Admittedly, I shudder at the word "glyphosate" as well. Only time I use weed killers is on poison ivy plants too big to pull as I'm allergic. I have a poison ivy "forest" growing beyond my back yard.
Traverse City is a beautiful part of the country and surprisingly (to me) vibrant. Born and bred between steel mills and corn/soy farming, I found it very refreshing and beautiful. Loved the area on the western side of the state all the way up to Legs Inn.
I mention "sustainable" because some folks might be able to connect easier with that word than "permaculture".

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hazelnut
Mar 27, 2015 12:43 PM CST
That might be a good idea to focus on sustainability, but I think the term permaculture has a little broader meaning--and also by now a history of the work of many permaculturists who have contributed to and expanded the concept internationally.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 27, 2015 1:21 PM CST
I totally agree with you about the broader meaning of permaculture.

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hazelnut
Mar 29, 2015 3:07 PM CST
14 Pamphlets by Bill Mollison are really the foundation of Permaculture.

http://www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org/PDC_ALL.pdf
155 pp.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 30, 2015 2:02 PM CST
Doing my first chop and drop (sort of) along with mini sheet mulching today in my sunny vegetable/rose bed. Not dropping the rose canes but am dropping all of the old perennial stems and leaves along with lots of fall leaves. I put crushed egg shells and coffee grounds down first. Then dead foliage and brown leaves. Topped with a thin layer of worm castings mixed with peat moss (yeah - I know but it came that way). Didn't go to crazy with the depth since I'll be planting some veg there in two months. Hopefully it will break down enough to do that. Hoping to get some rain showers later or I'll have to water the whole thing down. Will eventually top it with some of my compost but wanted to get it working.

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hazelnut
Mar 30, 2015 7:11 PM CST
Two days of rain here with thunder and lightening. Maybe its headed your way!
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Mar 31, 2015 9:33 AM CST
No such luck. We did get a "system" out of the north but only got a few drops of rain. Still a chance today and then Thursday. Gonna try to get out there and use the sprinkling can to wet down the stuff because I don't even have garden hoses hooked up and my rain barrels are empty (I don't store water in them over the winter - too many problems).
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Apr 6, 2015 8:53 AM CST
I had the opportunity to glance through some more resources this weekend. The Edible Forest Garden has great plant indexes that will definitely come in handy - an extensive listing with information on a lot of different plant attributes that would make guild planning much easier, especially for North American gardeners.

Charter ATP Member
hazelnut
Apr 6, 2015 11:44 AM CST
The Home Grown Foods Summit summit starts today.

Paul Wheaton Gardening without irrigation.

http://homegrownfoodsummit.com/Presentations/wheaton.html

He is a little long winded though.

At 69:00 he has a list of water saving strategies.

Schedule of speakers:

http://homegrownfoodsummit.com/Schedule/
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