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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 22, 2015 6:39 PM CST
I looked today at my semps taking their bonnets off. It is pouring rain again but took a quick pic.

Specifically looking for some life in the sempervivum and sedum pots.
I don't think there is anything live out there. (except ajuga and a hosta) But I will give it another couple of weeks and look again.
There is some bits of green in the rock garden on the far right but don't know if semps, sedum, or other? Shrug!

Bear with me while I idulge in some angst.

Thumb of 2015-04-23/CDsSister/76028f

Good news is my semp seedlings seem to have survived the cold snap. I covered them for 2 1/2 days.
Now that the temps are supposed to be in the 40s-50s at night and 60-75 days next couple of weeks, I am feelig better about them suviving at least.

Ireland . (Zone 9a)
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Paddy
Apr 22, 2015 6:59 PM CST
This side of the pond the temperature is fluctuating from 20° days to 0° nights ( 68 f to 32 f ). So far the semps seem to be taking it in their stride . I'm taking no chances with my seedlings though , bringing them indoors at night !
Great selection of containers there Marilyn .
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 22, 2015 7:19 PM CST

Thanks Paddy, more on Patio but don't think those survived either. We had a really bad brutal cold in early winter and then up and down all with freeze and thaw which is death to these babies. I should have done what MR did and wrapped them in ??? and put them in an enclosed space?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 22, 2015 10:57 PM CST

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What a bummer Marilyn. Something you might think of is that they may also be drying out /dedicating during the cold, dry periods.
Do I see some dark spots that are semps? Maybe there is life in there?
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 23, 2015 8:32 AM CST
Oh Marilyn, sorry to think that everything died? Hopefully, something survived and that would be the semp or sedum to buy more of?
Keep hunting...
Name: Kyla
Richmond, VA (Zone 6b)
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kylaluaz
Apr 23, 2015 10:04 AM CST
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Tessa0225
Apr 23, 2015 12:14 PM CST
I became obsessed with these suckers last year and bought a LOT from smg....sooooo... a toddler and a 6yr old played musical tags with my name tags :/
....then the tags vanished completely so I've got a lot of "I dunno who u are but your pretty" going on. Smiling tons of babies happening for spring so far!
I just visited your "most prolific" post a moment ago before placing a new smg order. I've got a little beef with them as many of my plants BLOOMED last year and I was watching and loving....till they died :/ lol. So yeah I got used up hens.....The ones that bummed me most were bought as small varieties for a specific container (and I was very careful about my soil etc...I really have a green thumb! Honest!) and they did beautifully all summer in this terrible Alabama heat....I had mixed reviews from the locals about leaving them out in the weather or bringing them inside....so I left some out....put some on the porch and some had the sunniest window I could find in the house. ("Some" being all semps in general but the 3 small varieties I had tried the same 3 spots but those 3 semps failed.... I'm sure y'all can guess who the other winners were Smiling the ones outside covered in ice at times. The porch dwellers were okay but I was too afraid to over water so I think they were under watered.....they have much improved since moving them OUT into the weather. The indoor guys didn't DIE but also didn't thrive....they are now recovering fine....but what I cannot Understand was how nearly every "main" chick smg sent me bloomed prior to winter???....I left them be....but their offsets that CAME with the plant didn't make it and ZERO new offsets were gained from ANY I bought last season and I began buying sooner last year and bought monthly until June....
the ones I had actually worried about have been the ones to put on a show!! They were tiny cuttings verses "named" specimens.
:/ the ones in individual bags with name (*cough* that my kids played tag war with me) were the ones I lost the most of....and with all the changes in color etc to what I've got left I doubt I will ever be able to know if it was an offset that once had a tag or was a bitty baby from a cutting.
*sigh*. I made really pretty containers and mixed them in....but had kept like with like and each tag near each plant. My kids loved these too apparently :)
So yeah.....rambling aside I'm hawking you guys for fast growers that won't mind the heat (yes I move em out of direct sunlight when it's hottest to avoid sunburn) and will live well in their containers over winter outside with temps sometimes dipping to 3-5 with occasional icing or snow. I wish I could say I have a place to collect these AWAY from little hands but if they see something other than a plant or a pot decoration?!? They are snagging it. I even painted names on rocks....pretty rocks mom. "Look what I found" lol.
Short of drawing a diagram of each pot....using a sharpie to add numbers UNDER THE POT Where they dwell and a matching number to the rock I attempt to use to "tag" them I doubt I will have luck with names. Smiling but you guys post great info and a huge thank you for the seasonal photos so I can see "what pretty" MIGHT look like later lol.
Side note.....is it odd that the semps I brought home from Home Depot or walmart did so much better than any I ordered from smg??
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 23, 2015 1:02 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Tessa --- I don't have kids but I identify with losing the tags to everything. Wind and birds are my culprits. I am hoping mine are well rooted (if they plan to live) and will stay put.

Hope you will have some pics to share of your babies (semps and human Hilarious! )
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 23, 2015 2:22 PM CST

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I Tessa, and Welcome! to ATP. So glad you found your way here.
Try burying your tag by the semps, twit taught us that some years ago. You can put one out for easy reference and one buried so little hands won't find them. : )

Many of us had troubles last year with new plants blooming, semps from many different sources. It was such an odd year. And getting them planted early makes a big difference. For your weather conditions June may be to late. Also giving them afternoon shade, or all day filtered bright light might be helpful. It seems to be the combination of heat and humidity that is hard on them in the southern states.

I look forward to seeing photos of your semps.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 23, 2015 6:04 PM CST
Got a chance to get out and look a bit more closely at my semp pots and there is hope!!!!

From a Distance and Close up.
Thumb of 2015-04-23/CDsSister/378730 Thumb of 2015-04-24/CDsSister/61ff4c

In the rock gaden area I have a couple of green things but a lot of dead looking things
Shoe rock - rock babies gone? Don't know what the bits of green are?
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Pinch pots that had survived 2 years now looking sad
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In the seedling containers in one 3 out of 5 of seedlings are putting out in one and 4 out of 5 in other are putting out bits of green leaves. YEA!!
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 23, 2015 6:08 PM CST

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Hurray! Hurray!
Might have to refresh the soil in all those container when the weather is warm enough. I am so excited that there is life. Hurray!
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 23, 2015 6:09 PM CST

I am going to relocate most of my stuff come middle May .. Will know more then.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 27, 2015 2:41 PM CST
There was ice on some puddles this morning, I am hoping my babies old and new did not freeze. I forgot to cover them, it rained all day yesterday too and is still raining or at least misting. Glare

I know we need the moisture but I need to get out and work on the stuff. I am not like the Oregon Ducks who get out in all kinds of weather. Hilarious!

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 27, 2015 2:43 PM CST

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We've had so much sunshine this month I'm not sure if I remember how to be an Oregon Duck. Sticking tongue out

Your babies should be fine Marilyn, and they will appreciate the rain.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 27, 2015 4:18 PM CST

It is not the rain but the cold that worries me. ... Do you mean you don't have that webbing between your toes? Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 27, 2015 5:12 PM CST

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The webbing seems to have shrunk to the point of not being visible now. Rolling my eyes.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Apr 27, 2015 8:18 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
Garden today. Clean next week.
Garden Procrastinator Region: Colorado Heucheras Region: Southwest Gardening Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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CDsSister
May 7, 2015 12:06 PM CST
Really soggy here this week. Supposed to have heavy rains late today and all day tomorrow. Could have Hail and Sunday/Mother's day up to 2 inches of Snow. I got a couple of plants in the mail which I cannot plant. Hope it clears up next week enough to get them put out.

Also need to cover the baby semps again.
Name: J.c. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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StaticAsh
May 7, 2015 2:56 PM CST
It's the same here Marilyn, except substitute tornadoes for the snow. Sticking tongue out
Whenever I have free time, I'm out there dodging rain trying to get things planted. Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
Garden today. Clean next week.
Garden Procrastinator Region: Colorado Heucheras Region: Southwest Gardening Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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CDsSister
May 7, 2015 2:57 PM CST
Tonadoes - OH NO. Don't go out in that!!

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