Lilies forum: Lilium leucanthum var. centifolium from China ???

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patweppler
May 20, 2015 8:59 AM CST
I am getting more interested in some species lilies and would like to know where you find this lily to bulb the bulb or the seed...
pretty impressive at 10 Feet tall.........
hard to find the proper info on the bulb and actually what I seen called it a species........I do not see it in my species in my lily books...
any info you have would love to hear about it

I seen a searched thread years ago on here............it was mentioned but other then that not much about It really........
I have heard it is referred to as different names too
Dragon is the one that I heard ........

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patweppler
May 20, 2015 9:02 AM CST
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/LiliumTr...

here is a link that shows a good pic of it and some info although not much and in here it is referred to as a species.......
Skåne, Sweden (Zone 7b)
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William
May 20, 2015 10:17 AM CST
ChilternSeeds are well known, ships worldwide and seems to have what you are looking for (and many other species lilies as well.)
http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_803X_lilium_leucanthum_var_centifolium
Not sure if any import restrictions would apply, so you would need to check that as well.


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patweppler
May 21, 2015 7:25 AM CST
Hi.
It does not look like it would grow in Zone 5........
and not sure of the restrictions here for seeds but sure there are some for sure........ will check into that though........
Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
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mnorberry
May 21, 2015 6:06 PM CST
Here is Leucanthum blooming last year in Arcata, Calif.95521 I don't know if its var. centifolium. I think I purchased it from The Lily Garden but its not in this years catalog.
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I found The Lily Garden catalog for Fall 2012- spring13. It states the following:
"Originating from China, has huge white trumpets with a dark chocolate-raspberry reverse. Stem will grow taller year after year and bear more flowers, reaching 8 feet or more at maturity. Fragrant 4-8 feet July"
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
May 21, 2015 7:06 PM CST
I got three of them from The Lily Garden and the voles got three from me, during the winter of 13/14. Hopefully something might come back this year. One of mine had a very dark reverse, really pretty. All three were 'leaners'. I've read they are not all that hardy but it surely is a beautiful flower.

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patweppler
May 21, 2015 7:45 PM CST
It is stunning..
Wow Lorn might be hope for me to try them here too
I have not seen the bulbs for sale anywhere........on the net
been checking
will keep my eyes open for them
I think that must be incredible to see the whole plant in bloom......
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
May 21, 2015 8:04 PM CST
I had the species L. leucanthum for many years, but it was not sold as variety centifolium. They never grew more than 5-6ft.
A scanned photo with L. davidii var. willmottiae in the background from pre-digital days:
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patweppler
May 23, 2015 7:48 AM CST
wow stunning
did It winter over ok Rick??
heard it needs much warmer climate ...like an 8 at least...
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
May 23, 2015 8:37 PM CST
Yes, I had them for about eight years in the ground in the garden. They were mulched summer and winter, but no extra mulching for winter. Perhaps variety centifolium is less cold hardy, I don't know.

But it sounds like your problem, Pat, is not so much cold hardiness, but rather early emergence. I think you will benefit most from a heavy winter mulch, placed over the soil well after the ground freezes deeply (4-6 inches). This will keep the cold in the soil when spring comes and delay the sprouting of the lilies 'til after danger of frost has past. You won't need to complain about frost blankets and such.

It's not the funnest thing, and your neighbors will think you rather silly, out in the garden in your winter clothing spreading frozen mulch. Spreading mulch over some snow is okay, too.

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patweppler
May 24, 2015 4:19 AM CST
thanks Rick all those tips are very helpful and will do that.........that is a huge problem here with coming up early..........4 frosts this week has been incredible and a lot of covering involved.....I never knew you could post on mulch in the snow. Last year the problem was that the ground did not freeze early it waited. we still had green grass and warms temps at Christmas but then after that LOOK out freezing cold and snow. We have a lot of freeze/thaw that happens here in the winter and into the springtime.

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patweppler
May 27, 2015 5:38 AM CST
Rick I forgot to mention that I did have 5 inches of mulch on top of the lilies in the fall before the winter set in. Do I do this after a big frost has come?? maybe I put the mulch down at the wrong time.
I think personally this frost/thaw is a big issue here...... tulips came up early this year and even before the daffs that is very strange. Never seen that in all my years to be honest....
the ground freezes and then in the mid of Dec we have weather way up in the 70's for some strange reason and a month before that 2 feet of snow on top........
Ontario usually does not get this strange type of weather but it seems last year we did big time..........

and in the end almost the total great lakes were covered in ice.......

I wander if I should mulch like you said after the first big snow has set in??

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