Lilies forum: Well Must say NEVER read this before about an oriental or seen it before either.

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Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 1, 2015 3:15 PM CST
the first year I moved in the year.......a year ago this past November I planted some lilies and last summer the garden was overtaken by weeds and such and tons of rocks and you name it. It got cleaned out this spring time .......much better.
but in the meantime there was some lilies that just never came up in the garden that I could see anyhow.
there was a butterfly bush in there and I took out over half of it this spring time is so invasive and lone behold I found an oriental lily from the other year coming up......
but the odd part is that first of all not sure of the name of the oriental...........and this is even weirder for some reason it split into 9 of them now......... No idea how that happens. the plants are small and very close together and not sure if any will bloom or not but wander what caused this..?? Last year it would have been under the butterfly bush for sure..........and never seen it at all.......and likely did not even come up........
I know Orientals do not multiply that easily so not sure what is going on here exactly
anyone have any thoughts on this???
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Jun 1, 2015 6:24 PM CST
its possible the bulb had many little bulblettes growing off it, from being in the ground fo so long. those are the 9 little ones you mention. we have some that we have left in the ground for several years. last fall we finally dug them up to remove the bulblettes and the main bulbs were the size of grapefruits! with dozens of smaller bulbs attached.
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Jun 1, 2015 6:27 PM CST
I have had a few orientals that multiplied quickly. Most don't but certain ones will divide quickly.

Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 1, 2015 7:05 PM CST
Hmm interesting, thanks
I do not think these will bloom since they are very small and very close together
but will see what happens
they might have to be......split up some in the fall..........

bulblettes that I what I was thinking maybe too
the rest of the orientals in the same bed did nothing at this
but I know that it could not likely get through the butterfly bush last year for an extra year in the ground likely helped this along.
where is the main bulb??
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Jun 2, 2015 4:47 AM CST
if my theory is correct, (well, not MY theory, but the theory I choose to pass along), the main bulb is down there a little lower than the rest of the smaller ones. they tend to sink a bit as the roots pull them deeper and deeper into the soil. also, if my theory is correct, the main bulb will be a lot bigger than it was when it was planted, and it will be obvious that it needs to be divided. if you so choose that is. should be quite easy to locate. like I said, some of ours that have been in the ground for several years have grown to be the size of grapefruits, with two or more MAIN stems coming from each bulb. these little buls will take a few years to mature so don't expect many flowers from them just yet. we always pluck them off and replant them in a new location for them to grow a season or two. I would wait until late fall to dig them up however. you don't want to disturb them during the height of the growing season by digging them up now.

Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 2, 2015 10:57 AM CST
thanks Jason will do that........
kinda odd though that this was a first year lily planted.....the fall before last fall.........
but will pull it up and see what I looks like in the fall...........
I do not see anything that even resembles any type of flower for this year.......

I have never split an oriental lily bulb can be believe it before??

I am not sure how to split these big trumpets I got this spring time...... they will be ready to split In the fall too.........did not split them in the spring since they had shoots starting to show up...... but the bulbs are huge..............and I mean huge....

How do you split a bulb?? now how to remove the offsets but not the main bulb to split it??
wow do I sound like a true amateur..haha
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Jun 2, 2015 11:34 AM CST
The main bulb may have gotten destroyed, weather, moles etc, but not killed, leaving the bulb scales in the soil, these will root and grow with ease.
You may even have planted a bulb that had a rotted root plate and it cause the same effect, one large plant becomes many small plants.

Depending on the type of lily, it might have even been leaf bulbils falling and rooting up.

All just guesses but that my first thought, rooted bulb scales.
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Name: Tracey
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Jun 2, 2015 11:35 AM CST


I had an oriental that as fall planted a few years ago and never came up. I had marked the location with the bulb name and checked it in the fall. It seemed instead of focusing on growth, it placed all energy in bulb production. I bet one single bulb had about 12 or so offsets. Haven't seen anything like that before or since, and it went on to bloom, that original bulb, the very next year.
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Jun 2, 2015 9:17 PM CST
Pat - dividing lily bulbs is a piece of cake. I suppose you can do it any time you want. not literally "ANY TIME", as in, middle of summer, I mean, whenever you feel you want to increase the number of plants or any time you feel you need to clean up the dozens of little off shoots. whenever you decide to do it, its best to do it in late fall, just as the stems are starting to die back. if the bulbs have been in the ground for several years, they will resemble what looks like a human brain. literally. it will have two (or perhaps three...? although ive never seen one with three), "halves", a right brain and a left brain, with a center "groove" running down the middle. simply split/break it in half along this groove. period. replant in fall to give them time to grow a few roots prior to going dormant. as far as offset removal is concerned, simply pluck them off. eventually they'll turn into huge, brain looking bulbs themselves!

Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 3, 2015 4:39 AM CST
I noticed that some of the new trumpet mixes that I planted .......had several shoots on them already and can see where they are going to need to be divided.......
I never knew you could just split the main bulb like that...... Guess I never looked at the groove......... but will know to check that when they are done blooming.......

thanks everyone tons of help

seriously never had to split up a bulb before, usually multiplied at the other house by offsets only.......... My oriental lilies do not do that well there at all........bloom for a few years and that was it...... maybe they needed to be divided back then as well.

and I think the same thing maybe the main bulb had an issue of some type of these are the offsets or the scales.......they will NOT bloom this year for sure........not tiny but wow are they close together for now.......will split them up in the fall and move them around. The offsets are from an oriental for sure........
I kinda shook my head when I seen this.

I love this forum in that I am learning so much here...... Hurray!

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