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Jun 2, 2015 6:13 PM CST
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Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
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Its leaves are almost triangular. I'm hoping it's not just more bitter dock for me to pull up. Glare Anyone know for sure?

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Jun 2, 2015 7:28 PM CST
Name: Rob
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Pretty sure it's not dock. Reminds me a bit of Scutellaria altissima, but you may not know for sure until it blooms.
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Jun 2, 2015 7:45 PM CST
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Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
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thanks, Rob, that is very interesting! Thank You! Last year I sowed what I thought was Scutellaria incana in that area, although the leaves don't look right for that. Confused Maybe it was Scutellaria altissima instead?

Always fun to wait and see what something blooms as before deciding on an ID! Hilarious!
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Jun 2, 2015 7:57 PM CST
Name: Rob
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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I agree, not S. incana. I've been bitten a few times by plants that I've grown "just long enough to see their bloom", only to have them become a little too well-established (Colt's foot comes to mind). But you're right, it's fun Smiling
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Jun 2, 2015 8:15 PM CST

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I also thought of Scutellaria altissima, but it has a very characteristic veins, the first veins are almost parallel to the axis of the Thumbs down
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Jun 2, 2015 9:45 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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Can you show a photo of the main stem? Is it round? smooth? hairy? etc.
There is a NOID plant with the same leaves in my front garden (from a local swap) and am curious to learn what your plant is.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~"Leaf of Faith"
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Jun 3, 2015 4:31 AM CST
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Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
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thanks Stefan and Greene. I'll try to get a photo of the stem today!
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Jun 3, 2015 6:16 AM CST
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Just a guess, the leaves remind me of The Money Plant, Lunaria annua...
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Jun 3, 2015 6:58 AM CST

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bonitin said:Just a guess, the leaves remind me of The Money Plant, Lunaria annua...

for the first time, I also thought, but it leaves the heart is Thumbs down
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Jun 3, 2015 8:43 AM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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To my eyes the leaves look nothing like the Lunaria annua; this link has a good photo of a single leaf. http://www.illinoiswildflowers...
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Jun 3, 2015 10:02 AM CST

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greene said:To my eyes the leaves look nothing like the Lunaria annua; this link has a good photo of a single leaf. http://www.illinoiswildflowers...



Lunaria leaves the shape of heart, pointy end, on the basis of a deep slice into
Catmint leaves dull, rounded tip, on the basis of a blunt, a slight easing, the shape of a spear almost a triangle I tip my hat to you.

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Watch out for the majority of similar plants are different bottom and upper leaves.
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Jun 3, 2015 10:06 AM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Definitely not Lunaria which I do grow. This looks more like a weedy thing, similar to what pops up in my gardens.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
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Jun 3, 2015 5:10 PM CST
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thanks, everyone. Just got home from work and checked out the stem. It is round and not hairy.

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Jun 3, 2015 5:39 PM CST

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rub leaves, smells a bit of garlic?
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Jun 3, 2015 5:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
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thanks, Stefan. I just went out and rubbed a leaf and smelled it (I think my neighbors enjoyed that sight! Hilarious! ) but I could not smell much. I also rubbed my Wild Ginger for good measure and couldn't really smell anything from that either, so maybe my smeller is not working too well these days... Big Grin
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Jun 3, 2015 6:00 PM CST

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best in the Sun, When you feel the garlic
It may be a garlic soup Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I'm sorry , Alliaria

has a lot of variable leaves
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Jun 3, 2015 6:26 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Catmint/Robin
PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Butterflies Bee Lover Native Plants and Wildflowers
Echinacea Azaleas Forum moderator Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks, Stefan! That might very well be it!! Thumbs up Thank You!
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Jun 3, 2015 7:17 PM CST
Name: Rob
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Hmm, doesn't look like the garlic mustard in my garden (and I've got thousands of them Blinking )
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Jun 4, 2015 4:06 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Compare with Conoclinium coelestinum
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Jun 4, 2015 4:17 PM CST

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stone said:Compare with Conoclinium coelestinum

perhaps also
http://www.missouriplants.com/...

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