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Jun 12, 2015 5:23 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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I have the 8 foot one as shown in this link:
http://www.plowhearth.com/8-po...
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Jun 12, 2015 5:55 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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I just went outside to measure it and from the ground up - the obelisk is 72 inches tall - 6 feet. The Reine des Violettes is 38 inches tall now. I read that RDV can get anywhere from 4 to 8 feet tall. RDV is thornless and can grow in partial shade.
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Jun 12, 2015 11:12 PM CST
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Sounds perfect for that. Why don't I have Reine des Violettes? Smiling
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Jun 13, 2015 12:23 AM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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If you decide on RDV I suggest you purchase it from Palatine's. I have 3 others from 2 other sources and the their height ranges from 12 to 18 inches - that's all they have grown in 4 years - ridiculous.
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Jun 13, 2015 11:45 AM CST
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Name: Sherry Austin
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Is there a difference between "own roots" or grafted on your different Reine des Violettes?
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Jun 13, 2015 7:09 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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All I can tell you is the RDV from Palatine's is 38" inches tall. And I did not measure it straight up and down because it's bent around the obelisk. So it's really taller than 38". I planted it last Spring. The other 3 RDV were planted 4 years ago and one is 18" tall, the second one is 14" tall and the third is maybe 12" in height. The older I get, the more "time" has become important factor to me.
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Jun 13, 2015 7:13 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Palatine's plants are always grafted, even the minis. Do you remember where you bought the other three, Margie?
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Jun 13, 2015 11:04 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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Yes. Two were from Antique Rose Emporium - they were both shipped in the Fall. And the third one was from Rogue Valley Roses. I have the receipts here. On the receipt from RVR I have a notation - "very tiny". I also made a notation about the free rose (nacogdoches) from RVR ... "the free rose was ridiculously small" - only a few inches tall. I remembered it died within a week.
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Jun 13, 2015 11:32 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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Antique Rose Emporium and Rogue Valley only sell own-root roses, so this rose must do better when it's grafted.
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Jun 14, 2015 8:58 AM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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Zuzu - I agree - that was my evaluation as well.
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Jun 14, 2015 10:38 PM CST
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Name: Sherry Austin
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MargieNY said: The older I get, the more "time" has become important factor to me.


When I became passionate about gardening in my early 20's, I always bought the smallest size plant. I enjoyed seeing them grow, while being thrifty. I bought a dwarf Wisteria, um, maybe 40 years ago. The nurseryman, at the time told me that it took 25 years to bloom. I remember saying that I was patient. Well, I'm starting to lose patience Hilarious!
Screw the 4" starts... I want the 24" box! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 15, 2015 1:15 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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40 yrs. - oh my! Similar story here... I gave up on my wisteria.
I bought "The Fairy' rose recently - I am hoping this rose grows quickly - cutest, tiniest bloom I have ever seen. Here is "The Fairy" along with a 7 1/2" 1953 Nancy Ann Muffie doll (notice the rosebuds on her dress) as she strolls through her garden.
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Jun 15, 2015 2:00 PM CST
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Name: Sherry Austin
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In California, the Fairy is quite a bit bigger, and I'm remembering it as armed and dangerous.. The name sounded so sweet and innocent.. Hilarious!
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Jun 15, 2015 2:47 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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The Fairy got off to a slow start here in Texas near the Gulf but is now a 4'x4' plant. The climbing version was much more precocious and is reaching out at least 20' along the fence and into the pasture. Both are well armed but completely charming.
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Jun 15, 2015 4:43 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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Henhouse said:In California, the Fairy is quite a bit bigger, and I'm remembering it as armed and dangerous.. The name sounded so sweet and innocent.. Hilarious!



"Dangerous"??? In that case, I am glad I live in NY. It sounds like something out of science fiction movie - like long tentacles reaching out to scoop you up.
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Jun 18, 2015 8:32 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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It's a Kraken Fairy!
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Jun 18, 2015 10:30 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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LOL
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Jun 22, 2015 4:26 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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The Fairy does well in zone 6, winter kills it back enough to keep it from getting out of control, but it will reach 3-4' by mid summer even if it is killed to the ground. It does well on its own roots too.

I had Reine des Violettes as a grafted plant from Wayside several years ago and it was always wimpy. Not sure what the problem was, but I would try it again from Palatine.

Margie, your Dixieland Linda is gorgeous! You got that from Heirloom?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jun 22, 2015 5:23 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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Yes Neal I bought it from Heirloom Roses OR and planted it in the Spring of 2013.
Thanks for the detailed info on The Fairy.
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