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Jul 17, 2016 1:21 PM CST
Name: Ivor
Middletown, DE (Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Fruit Growers Irises Keeper of Koi Peonies
Ponds Region: Delaware Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I'm copying my post I'd just made in the other thread about iris borers. In summary, spinosad-based sprays seem to work for me.

As a follow-up to my earlier post (June 21 2016), I'm pleased to say that after having dug up about a third of my irises and looking at the rest of them, I have not had any iris borers this year. Can't say for sure that it was due to the one time spinosad spray I'd applied back in April but you can be sure I'll use it again next Spring!
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Jul 17, 2016 3:23 PM CST
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
Region: Canadian Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Most chemical treatments are banned in Nova Scotia so that is not a route open to me. The squish to destroy and beheading is my option. I wish they hung out an occupied sign so I could find them easier Smiling
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Jul 17, 2016 4:07 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Birds Region: Kentucky Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: United States of America
I am curious about the spinosad stuff to see if anyone else has used it with success. I sounds less toxic than imidacloprid. Anyone else used it? Results?
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Jul 17, 2016 4:32 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I use a form of it for potato beetles.......if I remember correctly, it's .05%, in the product I use. here's some info:
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/TOO...
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Jul 17, 2016 4:48 PM CST
Name: Ivor
Middletown, DE (Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Fruit Growers Irises Keeper of Koi Peonies
Ponds Region: Delaware Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Marry Anne, It's worth checking out if Nova Scotia does indeed ban spinosad. It's actually semi-organic as it is derived from a bacterium found in the soil. It has relative low toxicity and as a precaution for bees, it should be applied in the evening so that it no longer has effect by the next day when bees become active again. It's safe enough that it can be used on vegetable plants.
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Jul 17, 2016 4:52 PM CST
Name: Ivor
Middletown, DE (Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Fruit Growers Irises Keeper of Koi Peonies
Ponds Region: Delaware Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I just looked and spinosad is approved for use in Nova Scotia. Check it out at:

http://www.novascotia.ca/nse/p...
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Jul 18, 2016 6:42 PM CST
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
Region: Canadian Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Wow! Thank you so much for checking that out, Ivor. I am amazed. I never checked since so many chemicals were removed from our stores and banned from use unless one is a commercial grower. Now I need to go back and see what people said about using it and where I can purchase it. Thanks again. Folks on this forum are fabulous!!
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Jul 18, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
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You can also try nemtodes if you prefer no chemicals. We are still on the find & squish mode.
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Jul 19, 2016 10:48 AM CST
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
Region: Canadian Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Well, so much for the spinosad use. It is a product not sold in Canada based on the research I have done online. Some people have ordered it in from US resources but in US $ and significant costs for shipping if you can get it past customs. I am not willing to go that route so back to squish and behead!! I know of a source for nemtodes so I think I will try that first next spring. The only issue is my irises are spread out over several perennial beds so I doubt I could treat them all. Thanks to all for the info on the iris borer.
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Jul 19, 2016 12:39 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Is "BT" available in Canada ?
http://pestcontrol.domyownpest...

it DOES work for iris borers, although you need to re apply often, and early...so you catch them before they are too far down into the fan. Test results I have seen don't rate it "very high", as to borer control, but, it would be better than nothing Shrug!
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Jul 19, 2016 1:03 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I found two borers in my Mayan Mystery today while digging, and I treated. Guess I didn't get that area well enough. Two rhizomes were completely destroyed. Angry Grumbling
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Jul 20, 2016 10:27 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
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Jul 20, 2016 10:58 AM CST
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
Region: Canadian Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Yes, I get BT. I use it when necessary on the cabbages. To work though, my understanding is it needs to contact the borer. Is that correct? If so, I will not likely have much luck because I never see them. They must hatch and move very quickly for cover!!
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Jul 20, 2016 3:06 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Yes, the borer has to come in "contact" with it.....that's why it's not as effective as the systemic poisons. Still, it does help...a little ! I use it on the iris that are grown next to "edibles', and on the re bloomers, when (if) they rebloom. I never see honey bees on spring bloom irises....I guess there are too many other things they would rather harvest....so I use the 'Merit" products in the spring, on them, but, late season blooms will attract the bees....so, I use the BT. I apply every week.....and try to get the solution to run down "into" the fan......probably not the best thing for rot prevention, but I haven't seen that soft rot is apparent in those sprayed that way Shrug! .
You also have to spray "early", before they are into the rhizomes....so you need to start just as bloom is ready to end. That's the "good thing" about the systemics....no matter where he is, he'll get a dose.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:17 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynnette
Northwest Illinois (Zone 5b)
I have used some poisons in the past but I cannot do it due to the Wren family that made a nest in the nest box I put out right next to the iri's. They have babies now and I see the parents looking for whatever they eat in and among the iris so I just am checking them by hand. I found signs of the borers on one iris I have all by itself. It is done blooming and I cut off the stalks and noticed the jagged edges and slime. I cut the leaves, but no borers inside. I waited to late to check. Oh well. They can't get them all, can they? Last year I found 3 in one rhizome of one lily and tossed it.
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Jun 12, 2017 2:05 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Birds Region: Kentucky Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: United States of America
I put down systemics very early this season and found that I have had fewer borers. Most are near bushes or evergreen trees. The moths tend to hide in those and they are not very high flyers. I only treated twice but very early in the season. They say the hatching starts after two consecutive days of 70 degree weather. If you get them while they are very small, they are goners but spraying after they are inside the leaves does not do much.

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