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Name: Dylan Nolan
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dylannolan
Jun 9, 2015 8:09 PM CST
Why doe this plants flowers bloom every morning and die every evening?? Is it supposed to do that??
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 9, 2015 8:28 PM CST
Hello Dylan. Welcome to All Things Plants. I think most Tradescantias have blooms that only last a day. Most of the Wandering Jew plants I'm familiar with are generally grown more for their foliage than for the blooms. I don't know your specific plant. Do you have a photo you can post? It may be that there are varieties with blooms that last longer. It seems to be a relatively large family group.
Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
Calhoun tn
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dylannolan
Jun 9, 2015 8:31 PM CST
Not right now I will have to post one in the morning and I know the plant is mostly for the foliage but my girl simply loves this little pink flowers it blooms
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 9, 2015 8:58 PM CST
I have a large container of Tradescantia pallida and just discovered I don't have a photo of mine Smiling . However, there is a variety of pallida called 'Purple Queen' and all the pallidas have red foliage (I think). The database here doesn't have a photo of 'Purple Queen', but I would expect it would be very similar to the other pallidas. This is one from the database. Is yours going to be similar? There are a lot of other photos of this one and others in the database.
Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
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dylannolan
Jun 9, 2015 9:04 PM CST
That's it for sure
Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 10, 2015 9:12 AM CST
Dylan, yes the flowers are only open in the mornings on that Purple Queen. There are a lot of flowers like that - I have a Beach Buttercup, a type of ginger and a water plant that do the exact same thing.
Took these just an hour ago, and they'll all be gone by 2pm at the latest:
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Name: Dylan Nolan
Calhoun tn
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dylannolan
Jun 10, 2015 9:20 AM CST
Omg that is so beautiful I was going to take a picture of my beautiful flowers but they didn't bloom this morning :((
Name: Dylan Nolan
Calhoun tn
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dylannolan
Jun 10, 2015 1:23 PM CST
Here are my plants and I love them all

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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 10, 2015 1:51 PM CST
I like them too. Looks like you have two containers with Tradescantia pallida. I'm old and the common names I heard most of my life were 'Moses in the Cradle' and 'Big Red Jew'. The one I grow is a pass along plant, so any identity it might once have had as a specific cultivar has long since been lost. When yours blooms again, see if you can take some good photos of the blooms and of the foliage and put them in the database. It will be interesting to see if there is any discernible difference between 'Purple Queen' and 'Purple Heart' and the common plant that has been being passed around hereabouts for decades Green Grin! . I did take a photo of the pass along this a.m. It's growing in a container with a diameter about the size of a washtub, but not as deep. I think this can be something of a weed in areas with warm winters.
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Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
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dylannolan
Jun 10, 2015 3:45 PM CST
Do you keep yours in partial or all day sun Donald and yes I will get some photos in the a.m. because mine was given to me as well and mine looks a lot like yours
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 10, 2015 8:42 PM CST
Mine is under an oak tree. Lots of morning sun, filtered in mid-day and most bright shade in the afternoon since it's crammed up against the east side of the tree trunk.
Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
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dylannolan
Jun 10, 2015 8:47 PM CST
OK because one of my flowers unfortunately is trying to die on me I think it has too much sun and I'm propagating 2 pieces off it because a few weeks ago it was all one plant and in the process of separating them the pieces fell off and I put them in a glass of water and now they have one or two tiny roots should I put them in some dirt yet or do I need to let it get more roots
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 10, 2015 9:09 PM CST
Like most Tradescantias it is easy to root. On T. pallidas I usually do it in soil. T. pallidas have stems that break off easily. Much easier than most Tradescantias. Some usually root just lying on the ground, even where they get foot traffic on them. Moving them in place for the summer, several pieces broke off. I stuck them in a catchall bed on the east side of the garage and haven't much attention to them. They are now growing pretty strongly. The red/purple color is affected by the amount of sunlight. I never have gotten the best color. All day sun and they get brownish or sort of a khaki color that's not attractive. Not enough and they tend to etoliate a bit and become more green. I think further out from the tree trunk would be better light for good color, but that space is taken.
Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
Calhoun tn
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dylannolan
Jun 11, 2015 5:33 AM CST
7:30 bloom

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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 11, 2015 5:41 AM CST
That plant looks healthy. All the pallidas I've ever seen look the same. Did you acquire this under the name 'Purple Queen'?
Donald
Name: Dylan Nolan
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dylannolan
Jun 11, 2015 6:34 AM CST
I had to find a name for it I attained it from my mother in law and she got it from her mom
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Jun 11, 2015 7:14 AM CST
Ah! A pass along plant! I see them for sale, but everyone I've ever known who actually was growing one got it from someone else who had acquired theirs from someone else until the origins faded into the unknown past Smiling . I wonder about the names they come with and what the origins were.
Donald
Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 11, 2015 9:20 AM CST
Dylan, down here they are grown everywhere, from full sun to full shade, but as Donald points out, the best color seems to be on plants that get maybe half a day's sun.

In the summer here, it spreads by creeping along the ground and rooting at the leaf nodes. It can become a pest if not contained. For you, cold winters will take care of that problem but be sure to bring some cuttings, or a pot of the plant indoors to keep it going for next year.
Elaine

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purpleinopp
Jun 12, 2015 8:07 AM CST
Nice! The flowers only last 1 day on any kind of Tradescantia, from the ground cover/house plant kinds to spiderworts. I think that may be true for all of the plants in the Commelinaceae family, but not something I've investigated. I do collect plants from this family, but will never even see all of them in person.

Purple queen & purple heart are common names, not cultivars, AFAIK. 'Purpurea' is a synonym, not a cultivar. I've never seen 3 diff plants either, in person or pics. Not sure why there's 3 diff entries in the DB, and doubt they are 3 diff plants.
(Never heard this referred to as spider lily anywhere else but this 1 entry)
Purple Heart (Tradescantia pallida 'Purpurea')
I put my pics here because it was the entry with pics & info:
Purple Heart (Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart')
This is probably all that's needed. Pics from the above entry should probably be here:
Purple Queen (Tradescantia pallida)

The variegated one is definitely different. Never seen 'Purewell Giant' or 'Kartuz Giant' but couldn't find any info about a patent for cultivars by those names. 'Blue Sue' looks like a plain green version, that could be valid. The plant pictured for the 'Pale Puma' entry looks like T. cerinthoides to me. Not many pics of that "out there" but the 1 other pic on site that might be considered reliable, Plants Delight, also looks like T. cerinthoides. (That's one of 2 plants Exotic Angel has sold the past few yrs with labels that say T. zebrina 'Red Hill.') What a confused plant! There is no cultivar by that name, 'Red Hill.' I'm not sure everyone writing plant tags at growers & botanical gardens understands the meaning of the punctuation & what constitutes a cultivar vs. just a common name (a nickname.)
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jun 12, 2015 8:19 AM CST
I'd guess that the variety 'Kartuz Giant' originated from Kartuz Greenhouses and was either a selected clone or the result of hybridizing the plant. They are still in business. If it's from them, then I'd expect there is a reliable difference in the plant from other cultivars. My other guess is that there is nothing to distinguish between most of the pass along plants which are given names. I'd be curious to know any differences between them. Obviously the variegated one has a visible difference, but I'm guessing if there was a difference in some of them it has been lost in time. I would only put photos of what I'm growing under a generic entry.
Donald

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