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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 1:12 PM CST
I have this daylily tagged as Mary Todd, but it looks too orange not quite the right shape, any opinions?
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kidfishing
Jun 23, 2015 1:15 PM CST
Tissue cultured Mary Todd?
I would say yes on Mary Todd.....
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jon
Jun 23, 2015 1:18 PM CST

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Yes, it looks like Mary Todd.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 1:20 PM CST
Don't know about the tissue cultured part, the plant was given to me. The person who gave it to me made her purchases from specific daylily salers as far as I know.
Thanks thats helps reassure me some.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 1:21 PM CST
Ok, so the tag stays!
Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Jun 23, 2015 5:19 PM CST
Larry, it's been suggested before around the forums here that if you really want to be sure it is Mary Todd, you could get another start of it from someone and then grow it next to your MT. I know it would mean possibly buying the same thing as you did before, but it might answer the question.

Either way, I just love that color!
Vickie
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 7:36 PM CST
blue23rose,
I may just do that next year. I have often wondered if my Mary Todd, being very orangish looking if planted in a different spot would be more yellow looking? I also wonder if a Mary Todd brought in from another source planted next to my Mary Todd would be more yellow or would it be more orange like mine? If I transplanted my Mary Todd to a garden that had a yellow Mary Todd should mine look like theirs and if so how many years would it take to change I wonder?
Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 23, 2015 7:52 PM CST
Here is mine for comparison. It has never looked orange at all.



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jon
Jun 23, 2015 7:55 PM CST

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Here is a photo that I took of ours:
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 7:58 PM CST
There are a couple of orangish looking ones in the database, I would have just changed the label if I had not seen that others had orangish ones also.
Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 23, 2015 8:23 PM CST
I moved mine from my garden in Utah, and it stayed the same. Wild Horses changed a little though. It used to be more yellow, and now it is a little more tan.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 8:32 PM CST
You know I too have often heard the only way to tell is to get another daylily and plant it next to it and you will be able to tell. I have never heard of anyone actually doing it, and reporting what the result was. One day I would love to get four of the same kind of daylily from four different sources and plant them all next to one another and see what they looked like! I think Mary Todd would be a nice plain one to try it with.
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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 23, 2015 8:54 PM CST
Funny! I've never considered Mary Todd to be plain! She is a shining star in my garden! If I have an extra fan when I move the daylilies this fall, I can send you one.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 23, 2015 9:02 PM CST
Thanks, that would be "fan"tastic (pun intended).
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Frillylily
Jun 23, 2015 9:41 PM CST
Mine had a gold yellow color to it and what I call a trumpet shape. It grew vigorously and bloomed heavily and did not get real tall.
Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Jun 24, 2015 4:43 AM CST
I found this reference to PH level in the soil. Evidently it can make a difference in the color.

http://www.strongsdaylilies.com/daylilyinformation.html
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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 24, 2015 10:38 AM CST
Thanks Vickie! I hadn't heard that before, and it sure would explain the color differences so many people see!
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 24, 2015 6:47 PM CST
That and the difference in cameras can cause a lot of confusion!

Hope this is not too far off topic, but I took some pictures tonight of Condilla and changed only the exposure setting. In Adobe Photoshop, I only cropped and resized. But you can see the difference in how just changing the exposure setting changes the coloring. I am constantly changing the f-stop and exposure on my camera because of different lighting variances, so you can imagine how many different shades of color we can get just because we have different cameras and settings.

Exposure setting at 1/250 sec
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Exposure setting at 1/320 sec
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Exposure setting at 1/400 sec
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Exposure setting at 1/640 sec
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Vickie
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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Jun 24, 2015 6:59 PM CST
We also need to take into account that not all monitors see the colors the same. But, some daylilies are one color for some, and another color for others, regardless of cameras and monitors.
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 24, 2015 7:03 PM CST
I agree
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