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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 7:59 AM CST
I have a number of these in the front bed of my new house. I was thinking they might be gladiolus but they don't have corms. Anyone know what they are?

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kidfishing
Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM CST
I don't think they are Glads.
Maybe some kind of Iris, Loisanana? Siberian? Dutch?
Not sure because I don't grow those kinds.

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 8:24 AM CST
They've never flowered since I moved here in March. I was hoping they would so I could get an ID.
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Frillylily
Jul 17, 2015 9:02 AM CST
nut hedge?

https://www.google.com/search?q=nut+hedge&biw=1680&bih=939&s...
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 9:44 AM CST
No .. it's not a weed and it's way too tall and leaves too thick and wide to be that.
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Jul 17, 2015 9:47 AM CST
They could be African Iris ,Dietes bicolor
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 9:50 AM CST
That's looking closer .. I'm leaning toward an iris. It's normal bloom time is Spring and Summer. Wondering why it didn't bloom if that's what it is.
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terrafirma
Jul 17, 2015 10:18 AM CST
I agree that they are an Iris.
What kind of light exposure are they getting? If not receiving a lot of sun, then that could be a reason for lack of bloom.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jul 17, 2015 10:47 AM CST
Looks like Dietes to me too, if not D. bicolor perhaps:
Cape Iris (Dietes iridioides)
Butterfly Iris (Dietes grandiflora)
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 17, 2015 10:48 AM CST
No that is not nut sedge, but that weed growing there with the Iris is Phyllanthus urinaria, what I know as Chamberbitter, a very hard weed to control. If you have never had to deal with it before here is an article on it. I have fought it for several years and finally have it pretty well under control with just hand pulling now.
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2013/10/chamberbitter_is_...
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plantladylin
Jul 17, 2015 10:52 AM CST
I sure wish I could control Chamber Bitter (Phyllanthus urinaria) here. It seems like I pull 20 and as soon as I turn my back 50 more appear! Green Grin! It pops up in flower beds as well as my container plants. Grumbling
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 10:55 AM CST
They get full sun until about 1pm.
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froggardener
Jul 17, 2015 11:10 AM CST
If that is what they are, I have both and some have never bloomed. I've moved them, planted them deeper, more shallow.......they will bloom when they want I guess

I've never dealt with chamber bitter, sounds horrible
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 12:41 PM CST
If you pull up the Chamber Bitter before it starts making seeds you can control it.

I think I'll dig all of the 'possibly' iris and move them to a different location.
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kidfishing
Jul 17, 2015 12:49 PM CST
I'll call some of the Iris people, they may be able to tell you for sure.
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Name: Leslie
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Lestv
Jul 17, 2015 1:24 PM CST
They really do look like iris. The rhizomes look right. It isn't dutch iris - they have thinner leaves. I am leaning toward Japanese/Louisiana, possibly Siberian. They don't have fans so I really doubt they are bearded iris. Do their roots grow on top of one another? That is typical of the Japanese iris.

If they are Japanese or Louisiana iris, they often take a couple of years to bloom. Was everything newly planted when you moved in? The clumps don't look too large, so I don't think they have been in the ground very long. The little single shoots outside the clump are sort of typical too of these types of iris. Some species cross iris look like that too though, so it is tough to be totally sure until they bloom.

These type of iris are fine under pine straw. Make sure you give them some fertilizer like 10-10-10 now, and a month before bloom time. Do not use anything high in lime near them because that is poisonous to Japanese iris, which haven't been ruled out.
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 1:30 PM CST
They appeared to be newly planted when I bought the house in late April. I'm thinking I'll put them around the greenhouse.

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Name: Leslie
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Lestv
Jul 17, 2015 1:48 PM CST
Remember that after you move them they may take up to two years to bloom.
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jul 17, 2015 2:22 PM CST
Thanks!
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gemini_sage
Jul 17, 2015 4:36 PM CST
I agree that they're irises, I think either Louisiana or possibly a form of I. versicolor.
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