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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 8:24 AM CST
I am in the process of moving from Ontario to BC and need to pack my daylilies with me. How do I do this? I might not be able to permanently plant them for a few months, is it possible to keep them alive ?
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 10:22 AM CST
I don't have any experience with that, but if I recall correctly, someone here on the forum had a similar situation. She bought one of those hard plastic baby pools, placed it on level ground, and added all her potted daylilies in and added a "little" water so that all her daylilies could stay hydrated. They did fine until she could get them all in the ground. I have done a smaller version of that with some I received that arrived at the beginning of the week when I had to work and could not get them into the ground until the weekend. They were bare rooted and I set them in some very shallow water (I added Hydrogen Peroxide to it) and changed the water out every other day. They did fine for a week until I could get them planted up. But I don't know how long they could last doing that?
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 10:27 AM CST
I see bare root for sale all the time in bags at Walmart every Spring. I never bought any, but it feels like the dark bags have peat or something in them to help them stay slightly moist. The bags are dark (black), so maybe it tricks the daylily roots into thinking it is winter dormancy. I don't know for sure. But if that is the case, you could use black trash bags with some small holes punched into it, add slightly damp peat and place all your daylilies in it. Be sure to remove most of the green foliage to prevent rot.
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 11:43 AM CST
Thank you Becky, that seems to be a very good idea. Thumbs up Thank You!
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM CST
Good Luck! If you use that idea, please let us know on this thread how it worked. I've never done it and I don't know for sure if it is the answer, but certainly worth trying, to bring your daylilies with you. Thumbs up
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 11:48 AM CST
Yes definitely I will keep you posted on this! Thumbs up
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 11:49 AM CST
kind of excited to move from zone 5a to 7a!
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 11:50 AM CST
You'll be able to grow even MORE cultivars of daylilies! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up

I hope your new place has a BIG yard .... Thumbs up Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 11:52 AM CST
7b to be correct!
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 11:53 AM CST
Even better!!! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM CST
I hope so too, but summer is quite dry over there. There could be no rain for two weeks and most of their lawns right now are brown Sad
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 11:56 AM CST
Bury a soaker hose in the bed. Who would see it? That would keep them happy and alive in drought situations! Thumbs up
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 12:01 PM CST
Good idea Becky cause you are from warmer area, you know what it takes! Hurray! Hurray!
By the way, I got all the zones wrong. I am at 5b right now and moving to 8a. or at least according to Canada’s Plant
Hardiness Zones. Would that be some what similar than your zone?
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 20, 2015 12:07 PM CST
Close to my zone, but really I would think you could then grow evergreens, too! Worth trying one or two that are ev to find out once you move! That is a big hardiness zone change for some daylilies. Your options have increased! Though I am not sure how hard dormant plants would like zone 8a. But you will find out. It might be the perfect zone to grow ALL daylilies. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 20, 2015 12:19 PM CST
I never would have even guessed in a million years, BC could possibly be a zone 8. I am way down here in South East Alabama in zone 8B, We are expecting high 90's all week again, with the heat index over 100, the humidity is nearly always very high. So it is hot and muggy, I never think of Canada as having hot weather.
Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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Daylilybaby
Jul 20, 2015 12:29 PM CST
Yes, there are all kinds of evergreens in BC and tons of berries. Only the bottom part of BC, a very small portion in the map that has zone 8 and 9 Larry.
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 20, 2015 12:34 PM CST
I still cannot envision in my mind zone 9 in Southern Canada and zone 9 in Northern Florida being anywhere near the same growing conditions, That amazes me.
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East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
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CaliFlowers
Jul 20, 2015 7:34 PM CST
Your dormants will do just fine anywhere in Canada. You'll not only get plenty of winter chill, but the short winter photoperiod will have most of them underground by Thanksgiving. I'm in California, and have had no problem growing dormants such as Angel's Smile, Baruch, Dance Ballerina Dance, Emily Jaye, Spread Gold, Yuma, Joel, Demetrius, One Dreamer, Spellbinder, and My Sunshine.

Ken
East S. F. Bay Area
USDA Zone 9
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Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jul 21, 2015 5:29 AM CST
Seedfork said:I still cannot envision in my mind zone 9 in Southern Canada and zone 9 in Northern Florida being anywhere near the same growing conditions, That amazes me.


The USDA zones are based on average lowest minimum winter temperature so are not necessarily comparable in different areas for the whole year or even the winter because the number of times the low temperature for that zone is reached in winter may vary by region. Also the zones do not follow lines of latitude horizontally - check out this map (probably the older USDA version as it includes Canada) on which you can zoom in to BC on the far left and while there follow also up the coast to Alaska which also has zones milder than one might expect:

http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/Images/northameri...

As this shows, the cold zones dip down in the middle of the continent and the warmer zones follow the coasts (and also are influenced by proximity to the Great Lakes) so it's not solely a north versus south thing.

The Canadian hardiness zone system takes different criteria into account and the same area is often a number different, for example I'm USDA Zone 4 but Canadian Zone 5. That can be a bit of a problem in Canada when one doesn't know which system is being used, such as for plant sales. That's why we often specify which we are using in Canada - and use the USDA zone equivalent when posting on primarily American forums.

Regarding the original question, it would be helpful to know what space and resources are available. I had to move a lot of daylilies, but only from one place in the garden to another because of building construction. I dug up the clumps, divided off a smaller piece of each cultivar and replanted it, and gave the bulk of them away. That would also work when moving. You can jam the smaller pieces into a container of soilless potting mix and hold them that way for quite some time. If they then need to be bareroot to move it should be easy to shake off the mix and pack them.

For a shorter time frame, when I had to temporarily remove some I dug up the clumps and left the soil on the rootball, put the plants in plastic shopping bags and set them in the shade. I'd water them occasionally. They were fine for several weeks until they could return to their original homes.

So there are various possibilities but again it kind of depends on the space and resources available, how they will be transported etc. (I know someone who did a long distance move with daylilies and mailed the plants a few at a time to the destination ahead of her, but that requires having someone knowledgeable at the other end).



Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM CST
In this video (the first minute of two) Daylily World says they moved about 18,000 plants from Florida to Kentucky.
They potted up many and then just dug up thousands and shipped them in garbage bags stuffed in a trailer .
I wish they had gone into more detail, (were they kept moist or kept dry?) I would think maybe dry, that way they would not rot while in the plastic. I know they would probably look awful when finally planted, but I think most of them would survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQONG8Qtm-M
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