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Jul 20, 2015 9:33 AM CST
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Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I have one of these and it opens its flowers in the morning but they close up quickly. I noticed they are opened in the shade but close after the sun is on them. They are potted, not yet planted out. Tag says full sun, but this indicates to me they don't like sun? or do they just open in the mornings? I just don't know anything about them. Are they really hardy? Just wonder if they need a lot of pampering, special soil or lots of water? Zone 5/6 ok for them over wintering?

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Jul 20, 2015 2:37 PM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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I do grow a few spiderworts (Tradescantia) here so they should overwinter for you. IMO, they tend to get brown spots and melt after they bloom. I think they do better here when the roots are kept a little cooler - they don't totally melt away. 'Sweet Kate' is in my sunny bed but doesn't get direct sun but it does get hot there. It melts away to nothing. I have 'Osprey' where the roots are definitely shaded by a hosta and it gets a few hours of direct sun in the afternoon. It doesn't melt away as totally as 'Sweet Kate'. Maybe morning sun would be better for these but I don't have any. If you deadhead them, you'll get more blooms.
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Jul 20, 2015 4:10 PM CST
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Missouri (Zone 6a)
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ok thank you. It was a gift plant so I do want to keep it alive if I can.
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Jul 20, 2015 6:28 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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Hardy they are ,I have been trying to get rid of them for years. No matter how many I rip out they just show up everywhere.
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Jul 20, 2015 7:16 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Ditto! Known here as PITA.
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Jul 20, 2015 9:09 PM CST
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Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I tip my hat to you.
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Jul 21, 2015 7:27 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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The blooms do close early depending on temperature & sun hitting them. The earlier the sun hits them and the hotter it gets determines how long the blooms remain open. Mine are in dappled sun in the afternoon. They have almost all melted away for the year. They'll come back in the spring.
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Jul 21, 2015 10:15 AM CST
Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Best way to keep it going is to try and kill it! Like Bob and Arlene, it's near impossible to get rid of .. I've mowed over it, hit it with weed killer, yanked it out and it keeps coming back in places I can't believe .. because of that, I'm thinking it makes seeds but I've never seen a seed pod and I've looked!
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Jul 21, 2015 10:22 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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I've dug out the roots, many times, and still find it roaming around the next year. I get the feeling they'll be in my funeral arrangements!
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Jul 21, 2015 10:50 AM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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They are not invasive for me. Same patch for several years has grown as any perennial will do, but has not tried to take anything over. No unwanted seedlings anywhere either. Pacific Northwest Zone 8.

Edited to add link to plant: Spiderwort (Tradescantia ohiensis)
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Jul 21, 2015 10:54 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Oh they reseed. Too difficult to find the seed pods but I know they reseed. Funny that you guys in colder zones have problems with it being a thug. Like Deb, I haven't really had a problem with it like that & the same was true when I lived in zone 10. In fact, I dug mine up from the side of the road & planted them in one of my "wild" areas & actually WISH they would increase more rapidly.
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Jul 21, 2015 2:50 PM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Years ago I had some Tradescantia that roamed and didn't buy any new plants for a long time. They weren't attractive at all but they were in a wilder part of the garden. 'Sweet Kate' and 'Osprey' seem to be well-behaved. The former has melted to nothing now but the latter (in more shade) is still throwing out a flower or two.
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Jul 21, 2015 2:59 PM CST
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Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I have Sweet Kate
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Jul 21, 2015 6:07 PM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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When it's in flower, it makes my day. Nice gift!
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Jul 22, 2015 6:21 PM CST
Name: Connie
Edmonton, Alberta area (Canada (Zone 3a)
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I'm in a Zone 2b and I've had two Spiderwort's for about three summers. They are thriving, but not spreading. I wouldn't mind if they spread a bit. 😀
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Jul 22, 2015 6:26 PM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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'Sweet Kate' hasn't really spread for me but it has for DD in MI. I think if I had it in a cooler/shadier spot with better soil, it might spread. 'Osprey' has spread some but not rapidly.
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Jul 22, 2015 6:38 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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Sweet Kate did not spread like the others.
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Jul 23, 2015 5:07 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Spiderwort is growing all over the place under the old oak tree at my place. I have three kinds: Zwanenburg Blue,
Valour (pink), and Osprey (white). They only bloom 1/2 day, in the morning. They are melting away now, which is good because then I can check for poison ivy under the tree and get rid of it, lol! If I spray for poison ivy, I know I am not going to kill all of the spiderwort. It reseeds freely here. I don't think you will have any trouble with it dying on you.

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Jul 23, 2015 8:25 AM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
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Vickie - I didn't realize that it reseeds but then I deadhead hoping to keep the blooms coming. My old 'Zwanenburg Blue' (always loved the color) did spread (and ultimately died out due to neglect) but I always thought it was by roots. Learn something new every day.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
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Jul 18, 2017 9:00 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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This is a good example of a plant I need better information on. I have noted in the comment section what it is I do when this plan starts flopping, but that is just what I've tried, no clue if it's the best way to approach it. I would really like to be able to go somewhere in our database to find out how other folks address post-bloom care of plants. Obviously this would be different for different regions - many folks consider this a thug, I have not found that to be true for me. Meanwhile, I'm heading out to...what...cut below blooms, cut to the ground, ?? I'll likely cut to 8" or so to leave some foliage I guess. July is hard.
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