Plant Database forum: Conservation Status?

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Name: Kim
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Chillybean
Jul 28, 2015 1:05 PM CST
Recently, I edited to include some details of the Carex retrorsa. I remember reading somewhere it was Endangered. When I looked on the USDA site, I found it was, but only in certain states. I went to mark it, but there was no option to list where. So I believe I just left that alone. What is the best thing to do when I run into this again?

Thank you for your help.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 28, 2015 1:10 PM CST

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You can add a comment to the entry, listing the states in which it's endangered. That would be quite helpful. Smiling
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jul 28, 2015 1:41 PM CST

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In addition, we actually have a databox field for conservation status. Go to the plant in question and click on "Edit data details." Then scroll to the very bottom and you'll see "Convervation Status".

Check off the appropriate one and submit the proposal and once approved, it'll have the nice snazzy conversation status box shown on the plant.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 28, 2015 1:52 PM CST

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I think Chillybean's aware of the databox field, but hesitated to use it because it provided no way of limiting the endangered status to only some specific states.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jul 28, 2015 2:50 PM CST

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You're right and I overlooked that. I think you suggestion to use the comments area is the right one and the checkbox should probably be reserved for those plants that have a consistent status everywhere.
Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Chillybean
Jul 28, 2015 5:09 PM CST
Thanks for the replies. :)
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jul 28, 2015 5:51 PM CST
Maybe another status could be added, like "endangered in some areas".

Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
Jul 28, 2015 6:27 PM CST

Plants Admin

Or, we could stick with zuzu's excellent suggestion to deal with state listed species in the comments section. Smiling

The issue with STATE endangered species lists is that they can seem a bit farcical if taken out of context. The southern flying squirrel, for example, is listed as an endangered species in my state in spite of the fact that it is a common resident of suburban parks throughout most of its range. As another example, there are plants that are listed on the endangered species list of one state and the noxious weed list of another.

The Endangered Species Act is a serious piece of federal legislation. Once an animal, or to a lesser extent plant, goes on the list, a whole series of regulations kick in to provide it with protection. Consequently, listing a species as federally endangered is an arduous and highly legalistic process. Nothing makes it on the list on a whim.

Some states have legislation dealing with endangered species but none, that I'm aware of, even come close to the strength ESA nor could they really. Partly as a result, states tend to use endangered species designations as a means of focusing conservation efforts at what would more properly be described as "at risk species" or "species of concern". In other words, species that don't meet the definition of threatened or endangered, but do seem to be headed in that direction. State endangered species lists tend to be long, and often kind of weird IF the context isn't understood.

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