Clematis forum: Clematis varieties that double in Zone 8 or higher

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Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Jul 29, 2011 7:06 AM CST
I was wondering if anyone knows if Patricia Ann Fretwell doubles in hot clims.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 29, 2011 12:57 PM CST

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Hi, Anna. Yes, Patricia Ann Fretwell does put out double blooms even here in zone 9.
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Jul 29, 2011 5:16 PM CST
Great! I am going to order one from MamaJack in Cubits
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 29, 2011 5:35 PM CST

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When it starts blooming, you'll wish you had ordered two. Big Grin
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Jul 30, 2011 5:11 AM CST
OK..you twisted my arm! I love kivirist ristmagi but I don't think I will get that one..so far ,I am the only one to order it... Sad
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Jul 30, 2011 9:59 AM CST
Sorry, Anna. But I will get a Patricia Fretwell to help out if it looks like being cut. It was on my first list, but I am trying to be at least a LITTLE restrained and took it off. Hilarious!
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Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Aug 21, 2011 4:19 PM CST
How about Clematis Kiri Te Kanawa? Anyone have it double in hot climates?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Aug 21, 2011 4:46 PM CST

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I can't help you with that one, Anna. I've ordered it from three different nurseries, but they have all have suddenly not sent it to me at the last minute, citing crop failure or, in one case, an employee's failure to include the Kiri Te Kanawa plants in the shipping box. I'm beginning to suspect it doesn't exist. Big Grin
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Aug 21, 2011 6:43 PM CST
Hilarious!
Maybe a ploy to make you pay double for it one day. I had a similar problem with Juuli, although not that many times!
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Sep 26, 2011 8:45 PM CST
Dominika...is was a nice surprise!
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 26, 2011 10:13 PM CST

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A very pretty surprise too!
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Oct 26, 2011 3:14 PM CST
Beautiful!!!!
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Dec 3, 2011 9:28 AM CST
Clematis Kiri Te Kanawa is available from Brushwood now! Maybe it really does exist. Rolling my eyes.
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Dec 3, 2011 9:59 AM CST
Are you ordering it Anna? I got the email they were open, but haven't looked yet, as I'm scared to.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2011 1:29 PM CST

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I ordered it, but I also ordered it from Joy Creek, just in case. I received Kiri Te Kanawa and Hoshi-no-Flamenco from Joy Creek a few days ago in the mail. They're big 1-gallon plants, but all that's showing above the dirt is an inch of brown stems and a forlorn brown leaf or two. I hope they're in there. Smiling

My order from Brushwood was for Kiri Te Kanawa, Andromeda, Diamantina, Dancing Queen, Vyvyan Pennell, and Shin-Shigyoku.

Then yesterday Sue and I went out to some local nurseries and I found Rebecca (hooray, hooray, hooray), Freckles, and Belle of Woking.

I love the start of Clematis buying season!
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Dec 3, 2011 2:14 PM CST
Good score! Hurray! You must have notifications on some of those, b/c I think I was looking at Diamantina but was unavailable. I ended up ordering
Josies Midnight Blue
Luxuriant Blue
Gravetye Beauty
Star of India
Romantika
Kiri Te Kanawa
Delivery is in April, I am guessing you can plant them anytime.
I lost Freckles that was in a pot this summer, but was also unavailable at Brushwood. It is very rare to find clems at discount prices or any variety around here. Grumbling
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2011 2:55 PM CST

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Mine will be shipped to me in February. I did get notification that Andromeda and Kiri were in stock again, so I went straight to the website and ordered. Diamantina looks like this year's hot clematis, so I'm not surprised it sold out quickly.
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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canadanna
Dec 3, 2011 5:51 PM CST
I checked on Diamantina and it is still available. I guess I passed over it b/c I wasn't sure if it would double in hotter climates. Do you know if it does? Both it and Ando are gorgeous Drooling
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2011 6:39 PM CST

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Sorry, Anna. I don't really know anything about it. I just liked the picture, so I ordered it. I actually never have problems with clems not doubling, though. The ones that are supposed to be double are always double here.
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Dec 3, 2011 6:42 PM CST
I don't know if it will double for you, Anna, but mine was just gorgeous this year.

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