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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 28, 2015 7:54 PM CST
Growing in partial shade, sandy soil on my property. I was so hoping it was one of our native milkweeds but I can't find any which match it. Sad
Entire plant:


Alternate leaves
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Underside of leaves
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Close up of leaf
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Tops of plant
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Base of plant
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This is another one of these plants nearby that had been broken off or bitten off but these are the bloom stalks coming off the remaining stem
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And last but not least -- I pulled a leaf from the stem & there is milky sap




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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Jul 29, 2015 3:35 PM CST
What an amazing set of pictures!! I wish I knew what it is, it is so vigorous, healthy and hairy too.
I can't wait to find out, you have a amazing plant there. Smiling
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 29, 2015 6:01 PM CST
Thank you Josephine. There are quite a few of them out there. I just went to check again as if they will have changed since yesterday. Hilarious! Hilarious! The bloom stalks are originating from where the leaf stem joins the main stem and they apparently shoot up tall, most likely standing far above the foliage. At least that is what appears to be happening at this point.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 8:36 AM CST
Wow, no one has a clue? It sure is rare when you guys get stumped. Does anyone have any guess of what genus at least?
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
Aug 1, 2015 11:00 AM CST
Maybe something related to millet? Panicum?
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 11:38 AM CST
Thanks Celia but it doesn't appear grasslike at all. Confused
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Aug 1, 2015 11:53 AM CST
I'm not at all sure, but it reminds me of Euphorbia bicolor. How tall is it? E. bicolor is a native plant here and I really like how it looks when it blooms. It blooms late in the season.
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Aug 1, 2015 12:03 PM CST
Only been to Florida once in my life and that was to go to Disney world so, this is a wild stab. Could it be some kind of milk Weed?
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 12:17 PM CST
Donald, the tallest one thus far without the bloom stalk (the entire plant in the first photo) is about 15" high. It is certainly not E bicolor but I did just check all the euphorbias native to FL in the USDA site & found no matches. It seems all the euphorbias are glaucous & this is hirsute.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 12:19 PM CST
springcolor said:Only been to Florida once in my life and that was to go to Disney world so, this is a wild stab. Could it be some kind of milk Weed?


Thanks Paul. I wish it were! But no, it isn't. Super nice photo though. Thumbs up
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
Aug 1, 2015 12:29 PM CST
Then, I'm out of ideas. Sorry I can't be more help. It doesn't look familiar at all. Shrug!
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froggardener
Aug 1, 2015 12:59 PM CST
I agree with Julia, it looks like a milkweed, don't y'all have a pineland milkweed there
I think one was traded to a friend a few years back
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Aug 1, 2015 1:07 PM CST
Who is Paul?
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Name: Beverly
Colima, Mexico (Zone 11a)
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vitrsna
Aug 1, 2015 1:10 PM CST
Ann, have you tried breaking a stem or leaf to see if milky fluid comes out? Have you rubbed your fingers on the leaves to see what it smells like?
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 1:22 PM CST
springcolor said:Who is Paul?


I'm sorry Julia. Brain freeze there. I don't know why I called you Paul.

Also I goofed when I said the USDA site -- it was the FL Vascular plants site.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 1:25 PM CST
Jolana said:I agree with Julia, it looks like a milkweed, don't y'all have a pineland milkweed there
I think one was traded to a friend a few years back


Yes, we do but this is not it. Here is the pineland spurge
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herbarium/specimens/zoom/imagezoom_...

and I did find one that is E. pubentissima but it isn't it either:
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herbarium/specimens/zoom/imagezoom_...
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Aug 1, 2015 1:26 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing I thought I was missing something, kept looking at the names of people that posted. I see what you did, it is a nice photo from Paul. Has this plant bloomed, probably not since you didn't post a picture.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 1:30 PM CST
vitrsna said:Ann, have you tried breaking a stem or leaf to see if milky fluid comes out? Have you rubbed your fingers on the leaves to see what it smells like?


Beverly, yes, my last photo in my original post shows the milky sap when i pulled a leaf from the stem. I will try seeing what the leaves smell like & report back.
It seems the leaves are clasping but I can't be positive of that. I tried to determine yesterday exactly what constitutes clasping in botanical terms & am pretty sure these are clasping but have my doubts as to my ability to understand perfectly.

Thanks for trying Celia. Thumbs up
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 1, 2015 1:31 PM CST
springcolor said: Rolling on the floor laughing I thought I was missing something, kept looking at the names of people that posted. I see what you did, it is a nice photo from Paul. Has this plant bloomed, probably not since you didn't post a picture.


You're right -- that's where I got Paul from. Hilarious! Hilarious! *Blush* Hilarious! Hilarious!

No, it has tiny buds as shown in my original post but no blooms yet. I am waiting. I feel like an expectant mother. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
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Name: Jolana
Mountain City, Tx (Zone 8b)
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froggardener
Aug 1, 2015 1:39 PM CST
Hope you find out what it is, it bugs me so bad if I can't find answers. Today, I was so wrapped up trying to find out what plant a friend has but doesn't know the name, so when I was strolling through the nursery I really didn't see anything because I was looking to see if my friends plant was there, cuckoo

http://www.easttennesseewildflowers.com/gallery/index.php/Fl...

http://www.sharonsflorida.com/milkweeds_native_to_florida.ht...


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