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Jun 7, 2010 11:46 AM CST
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Name: Janet Colvin
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I found what I think are eggs on a leaf of my Amaranth this morning.

I have been trying to figure out what this is a host of and am having no luck at all. So I'm here to ask the experts. Is this caterpillar eggs? Or some kind of poop?



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Jun 7, 2010 11:47 AM CST
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Here is the "forest" of plants that I found this on. One leaf only has these black "spots"

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Jun 7, 2010 11:48 AM CST
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After I discovered the black things, I did see what looked like a black swallowtail hovering around this plant.
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Jun 9, 2010 1:19 AM CST
Name: Sheila F
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Maybe TexasPuddyPrint (Cat) will have some idea what you have there. I have never seen anything like that.
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Jun 9, 2010 5:25 AM CST
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Whatever it was, it's gone with a good rain. So at this point, it really doesn't matter.

Thanks though Sheila!

Janet
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Jun 9, 2010 12:06 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Yes, that looked like some kind of poop/frass from something. I haven't heard of any butterflies using the amaranths. I'm having trouble with a big outbreak of katydids...eating, eating, eating. Practically defoliated my Lacey Oak and damaged foliage on lots of things. And then there's the Swamp Milkweed Beetle larva eating my milkweed foliage. Killing all of those I find. Here's a Giant Swallowtail, looking good atop a Basketflower (the Basketflowers are all over my yard this year, BTW). I have released two of the GSTs, have two more chrysallises and two cats!

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Jun 9, 2010 12:10 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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And this was also on the Basketflower...Black Swallowtail?
The BST cats have been here in large numbers for the last month or so.

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I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Jun 9, 2010 12:15 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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And these Gulf Fritillaries were occupying themselves on a hot afternoon doing what GFs do....probably followed later on by egg-laying by the female.

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I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Jun 9, 2010 12:24 PM CST
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Beautiful butterflies Linda. I haven't seen many here at home, but at the deer lease in Kountze, I've seen a multitude of them. There are lots of wildflowers at the lease.
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Jun 9, 2010 1:20 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Well, maybe that's it, then. I grow lots of wildflowers...and some native host plants, too!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Jun 9, 2010 1:24 PM CST
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What I'd like to find is those rolls of wildflowers that you just put down and let God take over. I'd love to have lots of pretty wildflowers at the entrance to our camp. We've got a well dug now and a hose hooked up, but it's not long enough to reach the entrance. And besides that, I'll be gone for a month and know that the guys won't bother with watering them. So I need something that produces a "big bang" for the buck and is self sufficient too. I used to see them at places like Walmart, but haven't seen them in a few years.
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Jun 9, 2010 2:36 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Well, you could get some mixed seeds of native wildflowers, put the seeds out this fall and then let nature take it from there! Might get enough of them coming up! Years ago, I did that some with the front slope of my property. Just threw the seeds out there...some of them did well that way, some didn't. It was too far to get water to that area. Of course, it helps if there's enough rain!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Jun 9, 2010 2:38 PM CST
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Great idea. Thanks Linda. I may try that if I can't find those "roll" things.
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Jul 30, 2011 10:45 AM CST
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Sheila and All, I wonder if the larval food plants are much different for TX as they are here in MS? Lee
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Plants and Plumerias and others.
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Jul 30, 2011 12:10 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Last year we had multitudes of Butterflies but this year has been very scarce. I wonder if it has anything to do with the extreme winters everyone has been experiencing the past few years?I was very excited yesterday afternoon to find Monarch Caterpillars devouring the Milkweed! I've grown this host plant for a few years and it's the first time I've ever seen the caterpillars! I was outside this morning and noticed a Butterfly flying erratically around the milkweed and landing to deposit eggs.


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Jul 30, 2011 8:19 PM CST
Name: Sheila F
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Kevin....no the host plants on the list for that particular butterfly will be the same everywhere. There maybe other butterflies in some areas and not in others though. Just like some plants grow in different areas. Since you are in Ms, look at the list under "butterfly gardening" on this link. www.dallasbutterflies.com It is a great reference site and has free membership.
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Jul 31, 2011 10:28 AM CST
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These links might be helpful for those in Mississippi too:

http://welovebutterflies.com/b...

http://msucares.com/lawn/lands...
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Jul 31, 2011 2:10 PM CST
Name: Sheila F
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That last site has a problem with their line up on the host plants lists...but both can be gleaned for some good info too.
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Sep 29, 2011 11:32 AM CST
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UniQueTreasures said:I found what I think are eggs on a leaf of my Amaranth this morning.

I have been trying to figure out what this is a host of and am having no luck at all. So I'm here to ask the experts. Is this caterpillar eggs? Or some kind of poop?



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Janet, are you sure those black things aren't amaranthus seeds? Or other seeds falling from nearby plants?

Karen
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