Plant ID forum: Graptopetalum; mislabeled

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Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Region: Texas
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SALL20
Aug 7, 2015 1:58 PM CST
I purchased this plant at Lowe's a few weeks ago. It was labeled as Graptopetalum bellium, but when I looked it up, I don't think that's correct. The flowers were whitish before they withered. Bellium is supposed to be scarlet and the rosette doesn't look right to me. The splotches are dark reddish brown. Anyone recognize it? Thanks.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 7, 2015 3:49 PM CST
Do you have any photos of the blooms?
Were the blotches there before you purchased the plant?
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Have to checked Graptopetalum paraguayense to see if the flowers are the same?
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bamira
Aug 7, 2015 4:33 PM CST
https://www.google.cz/search?q=graptopetalum+bellum&biw=1252...
I think that this is a job for valleylynn Hilarious!
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Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
Aug 7, 2015 4:48 PM CST
I don't have a picture of the bloom and yes, the blotches were already there. My first thought was paraguayense also because the flowers did look more like those. They never fully opened, but definitely were not scarlet.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 7, 2015 4:54 PM CST
Hi all.
I think the blotching is from damage/disease. I see the center new growth looks healthy.

I don't think you plant is G. bellum, the leaves are totally different and should be edged in white, and of course the blooms should be deep pink to red.
http://www.thesucculentgarden.com.au/grapt.html#thumb
http://worldofsucculents.com/graptopetalum-bellum-chihuahua-...

There are so many new crosses on the market that we may not be able to identify your plant. Graptopetalum paraguayense does have a white bloom, but the leaves don't look right for that either. On the other side of the leaf things, it could be growing conditions that make the leaves look different.
http://www.succulentsandmore.com/2012/02/making-new-plants-f...
Name: Sondra
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SALL20
Aug 7, 2015 5:47 PM CST
Thanks. I have repotted it and will see how it does. If it changes, I will post another picture.
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valleylynn
Aug 7, 2015 7:51 PM CST
That would be wonderful Sall20. That way we can see if it's overall appearance changes.
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purpleinopp
Aug 8, 2015 6:32 AM CST
Looks like it's gotten sunburned to me.
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Name: Sondra
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SALL20
Aug 8, 2015 3:01 PM CST
I'm now thinking sunburn also. It was sitting outside in the sun at Lowe's. I've got it in bright shade now and will see what the new growth looks like. If it were all green, what do you think it might be?
Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 8, 2015 5:08 PM CST
One good thing to remember is that each separate leaf can create a new plant; that might be the way to go.
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Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
May 10, 2016 8:25 AM CST
Here's an updated picture of this plant. It's been about about 10 months since I purchased it. It was doing fine through the winter and I have some new little plants. It has bloomed and I was hoping someone might recognize it from the bloom. When I returned from being out of town for a week, I discovered it has shed most of its leaves. 😓 I have potted them and hope to have many more plants. Will have to be patient!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 10, 2016 9:56 AM CST
Sondra is your plant in shade?

Lets call out @tarev. I think she might be better at IDing this plant.
How wonderful to see all the new plants.
Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
May 10, 2016 10:02 AM CST
This plant is on a south facing porch, that has a pine tree shading it. It gets only an hour or two of direct sun. The rest of the time is bright shade.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 10, 2016 10:04 AM CST
I am wondering if that is why the leaves and form of the rosettes down match the photos I see of Graptopetalum bellium?
Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
May 10, 2016 10:19 AM CST
So you're thinking it was labeled right all along, but too much sun exposure damaged the original plant?
Name: tarev
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tarev
May 10, 2016 11:22 AM CST
Hello there, sometimes it is really hard to id hybrids. Unfortunately I do not have that plant either so I have no basis for id. Oftentimes I have to wait one full year and photograph some of my succulents in each season to see how it truly looks like, especially if it manages to bloom. Give it time to see if the other more prominent features of Graptopetalum bellium shows better. I have read summer is its active growing period. I would suggest for now keep the id as to what you got when you purchased it. If the other characteristics do not show up later on, then you can truly say it was mislabled.

Variances in the plants growing pattern especially if they were grown more in an indoor setting than in a natural outdoor set-up affects the plants appearance, or if they were semi-dormant makes them look different too, so got to be patient for now and wait a bit. Smiling
Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
May 10, 2016 11:36 AM CST
@tarev Thank you for your input. If I've learned anything from gardening, it's patience. I've had Mexican tuberose for five years and I'm still waiting for them to bloom!😀
Name: tarev
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tarev
May 10, 2016 11:42 AM CST
Wow, that is indeed patience! Big Grin
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 10, 2016 6:05 PM CST
I'll say, that really is patience. I don't know if I have that much of that attribute. Rolling my eyes.

Tarev, what kind of light do you think Sondra's plant should be getting? She lives in Texas, zone 9a.
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Name: Sondra
NE Houston, Texas (Zone 9a)
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SALL20
May 10, 2016 6:08 PM CST
I'm in zone 9a. It's hot and humid!

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