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Aug 11, 2015 3:36 PM CST
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For the spring there were a group of four lilies introduced. Apparently they were named differently in Europe and the USA.

'Topspecs' = 'Bubble Bath'
'Jaybird' = 'Raspberry Ribbons'
'Spectator' = 'Cherry Swirl'
'Solution' = 'Cherry Splash'

These were names from H.W. Hyde & Son respectively B&D Lilies. Pardalinum pointed to this in the database entry to 'Raspberry Ribbons'.

Later on I saw these four being sold by a company called Fluwel. Only now one of them, 'Topspecs', was apparently renamed to 'Tigerspecs'.
The main listing from Fluwel is down(it's not season for them as Dutch lily bulbs are mainly sold in the spring), so no images there, you can however see an image on here: https://www.facebook.com/FLUWE...

Now the same four appears here: http://www.vws-flowerbulbs.nl/.... Tigerspecs has again replaced Topspecs. Without a picture so far.

My 'Tigerspecs' are placed in afternoon shade and we have had a cool cloudy summer, so colours are very strong.
The question is, is the variation in photographs, caused by environmental issues or is 'Tigerspecs' another cultivar?
I suspect 'Topspecs' were renamed to 'Tigerspecs'. Would be good to get some input Smiling .



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Aug 11, 2015 5:05 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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My combining Raspberry Ribbons and Jaybird is based solely on B&D and Hyde using the same photograph.

It is probably best, at least for now, to treat each as separate cultivars until we have information linking them. Very annoying, I know. With the RHS Lily Register three years behind and the Dutch KAVB a year behind those registries are of no help at this time.

So, let's upload your photos to the names you purchase them under in Europe. I'll make a note to watch for a resolution of this dilemma and if need be we can do corrections if and when needed.

Lily (Lilium 'Topspecs')

Lily (Lilium 'Spectator')

Lily (Lilium 'Solution')

If you buy/grow others that seem to have dual names let me know.
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Aug 12, 2015 4:56 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
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Ah yes, the fun of naming and renaming lilies, only to confuse (and annoy). Grumbling
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Aug 12, 2015 9:57 AM CST
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Thank You! , for the info and for adding the cultivars, Connie.
So if I understand you correctly, yet another entry in the database would be needed for 'Tigerspecs'?
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Aug 12, 2015 10:40 AM CST
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Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I have added Tigerspecs.
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Aug 12, 2015 5:54 PM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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Regardless of name, that's a beautiful lily.
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Aug 12, 2015 8:23 PM CST
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Never really saw the yellow in mine.
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Aug 13, 2015 7:38 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Those are very nice!
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