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Aug 13, 2015 6:13 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
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Aug 13, 2015 6:27 PM CST
Name: JoJo
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Hi Jim looks like it might be a black nightshade
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Aug 13, 2015 6:41 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
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Jolana I was wondering , Don't know , don't eat applied . How can you tell ? Difference difficult ?
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Aug 13, 2015 6:49 PM CST
Name: Christine
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I would guess yours to be Black Nightshade (Solanum americanum)
http://www.illinoiswildflowers...

One way to distinguish Common nightshade from the deadly Black Nightshade (Solanum nigrum) is by the fruit.

S. nigrum has dull ripe fruit and S. americanum has shiny ripe fruit.

here are a couple of sites with details:
http://www.eattheweeds.com/ame...
http://foragersharvest.com/bla...
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Aug 13, 2015 6:52 PM CST
Name: Carol
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Compare photos https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/s... Not even close. There are hundreds of plants out there with purple berries, but most aren't edible to humans. Look at leaves, stems growth habit, etc, before eating.
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Aug 13, 2015 6:58 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I was looking at the three to five Berry set . americanum has three , Black has five , like the the picture (mine )
Looking at huckleberry (garden type) it has grape type rows ,
I have seen either with either though ,this is tough , Looks like a pot and grow a few times for the fun of it ?
Marking it solved Solanum and Nightshade it is for now ,
Thank you all , I will look the info some more
I will save this also ,
Thank You!
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Aug 13, 2015 7:03 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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ctcarol You search shows perennial Huckleberry These are similar unto Garden Huckleberry an annual , I am familiar with perennial Huckleberry I had a small bush that lived two years , difficult to establish here Thank You!
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Aug 13, 2015 7:09 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I don't know ctcarol , if the links will work or not ,

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i...
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Aug 13, 2015 7:12 PM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Jim, when you check out this site - http://foragersharvest.com/bla... if you cannot see all the print, right click and "select all". It's a very good read if you are interested in some studies regarding the edibility of S. americanum.
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Aug 13, 2015 7:18 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Believe it or Wildflowers I have read that link , It is like my American Bittersweet , or Chinese , or the Euro variety that has been here NA for two centuries , Lot of discussions about what is what is not ,, and ,, I am not eating any of them !!! Smiling
I have the deadly variety of Bittersweet , American native and wild ,

Very interesting wildflowers and plants are
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Aug 13, 2015 7:31 PM CST
Name: Christine
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The locals call S. americanum "Garden Huckleberry" around here too. Supposedly, the flavor improves if you leave the berries on the vine until after frost. I haven't tried, mainly because my chickens eat them. They also eat the plant's young leaves. Smiling
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Aug 13, 2015 7:38 PM CST
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Name: Jim D
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wildflowers thread stray , my Bittersweet is a sometimes host for Luna Moth , Solanum Family
family .. Most know them destroying them as the smoother looking Tomato Hornworm . Three or four differences of those also ,, It gets complicated ,?
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Aug 14, 2015 9:57 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Hmmm. I'm not familiar with Bittersweet-Solanum family. I agree about the hornworms looking alike, the luna moth caterpillar included if one doesn't look really close. The hummingbird moth is another.
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Aug 14, 2015 10:12 AM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Wildflowers Solanum Dulcamara Is mine here

Celastrus scandens - Plant Finder - Missouri Botanical Garden
www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder
oh well , link error type in , Bittersweet -Nightshade
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Aug 14, 2015 10:35 AM CST
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Solanum Dulcamara
Native American Nightshade , a vine , known as Bittersweet I know thread straying ,, Hilarious! Shrug! Sighing!
Blooms





Bloom end


Leaf


Bloom with green Berry (unripe


Red ripe Berries
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Aug 14, 2015 10:53 AM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Okay, according to http://plants.usda.gov/core/pr... it's not documented growing in Tx. but its probably around here somewhere.

From all the holes in yours, something is enjoying it! Hilarious!
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Aug 14, 2015 10:57 AM CST
Name: Christine
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