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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Aug 16, 2015 4:40 AM CST
Hi everyone!I'm curious about nocturnal DLs. When do the flowers open? How long do they stay open? I mean, if I sleep at night Big Grin , will I ever be able to see what a nocturnal DL is doing? many thanks!
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beckygardener
Aug 16, 2015 6:03 AM CST
Sabrina - You are asking some good questions. Questions that I hadn't yet thought of. Here is a link that will hopefully answer your question:

http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/nocturnal_bloom.html

Which led me to look up extended bloom:

http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/extended.html
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beckygardener
Aug 16, 2015 6:06 AM CST
Even better ....

Here is a list of Daylily Dictionary Terms (just click on the word(s) to learn more): http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/dictionary.html
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beckygardener
Aug 16, 2015 6:12 AM CST
AND ... here is an image map of a daylily: http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/ImageMap.html
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floota
Aug 16, 2015 6:27 AM CST
One of Pat Cochenour's cultivars, LITTLE LEMON TWIST, is a prime example of a nocturnal, although she did not register it that way. I got it from her when it first came out. The next year, when it began blooming, it took me at least the first week (I live head each evening) of removing blooms to realize that-DUH!!- I was removing the old as well as most of the NEW blooms. The new blooms are fully open by at least 6 PM each evening. I still have to remind myself to be very careful to only remove old blooms. At 8 PM each evening, you must look carefully to see any difference. The old blooms re starting to look thin and wilted. Because the blooms are small, I still goof every so often!! I spoke to Pat about this before she died, but by then she was too ill to do anything about changing the registration data.
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Aug 16, 2015 6:33 AM CST
Thanks for that information Julie!

I wonder if any of mine are nocturnal ..... Confused Confused Confused
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Aug 16, 2015 6:58 AM CST
floota,
That first sentence of your post would make a great comment to add to the database under 'Little Lemon Twist".
Name: Char
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Char
Aug 16, 2015 6:31 PM CST

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Hilarious! I've done the same thing live heading Notify Ground Crew! Planet Claire and The Levitating Ananuki are two other registered nocturnals I grow, but the blooms don't seem to begin opening as early in the evening as NGC making it easier to not mistake tomorrows opening blooms from the ones ending today.
I really like the nocturnal bloomers. The ones I've grown open well, even when the mornings are cold (CMO - Cold Morning Opener), and remain open into the evening.
Name: Joy Wooldridge
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Joy
Aug 16, 2015 7:45 PM CST
My only issue with the nocturnal Daylilies is the slugs and snails will often eat on the blooms overnight. Of course they like to eat on some of the buds before they open too. So either way, they ruin the bloom. Some plants seem to be more of a magnet for them than others I find. Some, they don't bother at all.
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beckygardener
Aug 16, 2015 8:50 PM CST
Joy - Just curious ... do you happen to remember any cultivars that seemed to escape slug attacks? I am asking because maybe some cultivars are slug resistant for some reason.
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Joy
Aug 16, 2015 10:07 PM CST
Sorry, I don't. But it sounds like this could be useful info for others, so I'll try to pay more attention to that next year. Just have a very few blooming now. Some very late season and a rebloom on a seedling.
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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Aug 17, 2015 11:08 AM CST
Thanks a lot everyone!
So I could have a chance to see flowers opening Big Grin
I have a repellent for slugs and with all the heat we're having this year I barely seen some in the spring. They never made much damage to my DLs.
I really don't know if I want a nocturnal or not can't decide on this. *Blush*
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Name: Char
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Char
Aug 17, 2015 5:37 PM CST

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Oh you really should have at least one Sabrina! Smiling
Took this image of a nocturnal bloom beginning to open on The Levitating Ananuki about an hour ago. This will open sometime overnight.



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beckygardener
Aug 17, 2015 5:49 PM CST
Some stay open for 16 hours!!!! I think that is an asset to have in a plant! Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Aug 18, 2015 2:10 AM CST
Thanks Char! I will see if I can find that DL somewhere in Europe. Another beatiful nocturnal? Do you have any suggestions?
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Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Aug 18, 2015 2:27 AM CST

huh...
'nocturnal' is not a characteristic you can use in the extended search of the AHS database... Confused



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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Aug 18, 2015 2:39 AM CST
Mayo62 said:
huh...
'nocturnal' is not a characteristic you can use in the extended search of the AHS database... Confused



Mayo

Yes, you can! I just searched the database, there's a flag regarding blooming. I found Citrina is nocturnal and has extended rebloom. And maybe I can get it here easily!
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Mayo62
Aug 18, 2015 3:18 AM CST

I can't find it Confused
Where on the search form is it?

I see Bloom size / class, Flower form and Bloom season, but nothing that says nocturnal??


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sooby
Aug 18, 2015 5:46 AM CST
Mayo62 said:
I can't find it Confused
Where on the search form is it?

I see Bloom size / class, Flower form and Bloom season, but nothing that says nocturnal??


Mayo


I think Sabrina means the ATP database rather than the AHS one. The ATP search for daylilies is here and there's a check box for nocturnal:
http://garden.org/plants/group/daylilies/search/

To search for nocturnal in the AHS database you have to use the search box on the home page rather than the database search:
http://www.daylilies.org/

You have to sift through the AHS results, the database entries will say AHS Daylily Cultivar and then the nocturnal cultivar's name. There is an easier way of searching the AHS Database using Google and only getting database results but it's a bit more complicated. Go to Google Advanced Search:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
and enter nocturnal, then under site or domain enter: http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/ and that should search only the AHS database for characteristics that are entered but not in their own advanced search capability. Sounds more complicated than it is Smiling

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Char
Aug 18, 2015 6:04 AM CST

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You're welcome Sabrina.
Curiosity got the best of me at 10:00pm and I went back down to the garden to see how that bloom was progressing.....



Sorry, the color is off because of the spotlight. We had a skunk outside the night before, smelled him through our open windows. I was very glad to have not run into him on my journey!

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