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Aug 11, 2010 3:03 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Aug 11, 2010 5:20 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Aug 11, 2010 5:36 PM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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And now the lilies are all done for the summer.............the humidity is horrible and am waiting for the 27 nameless orientals I ordered to arrive. Did I mention I'm obssessed?
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Aug 11, 2010 5:54 PM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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Well, bring it on, Janet!

Cece, yes, I think you just might have, LOL.
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Aug 12, 2010 5:23 AM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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I'm the same way with Iris, Shastas, Rudbeckias, and Brugmansia. I see, I want, I buy, find homes for and plant, then the next spring or fall I start all over again. Just keep tearing up more lawn.
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Aug 12, 2010 6:21 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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This is your spot for enabeling then.
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Aug 12, 2010 6:50 AM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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My lilies are done for the year, the daylilies are not liking this humid oven we've got this year....... I am getting pretty tired of summer now and saying bring on fall cleanup and cooler weather.............
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Aug 12, 2010 11:02 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
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It has been a really hot one this summer here. Any day now we should feel that sense of change in the air, saying fall is right around the corner. For me, summer just goes by too fast. If flowers bloomed in the winter, I'd like that season too. Smiling
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Aug 12, 2010 12:15 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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aaaHHHmen
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Jan 29, 2011 6:00 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Hi Everyone. I am mainly on the Iris and Daylily Cubits but need some help hee. Years ago I have 3 oriental Lilies that survived very nicely here and then moved. I would love to have some more but most appear to not be that hardy (zone 3-4) that I see in most catalogs. Can anyone recommend some hardy ones or a source that might have some.

thanks everyone,
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Jan 29, 2011 8:35 PM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Hey Steph!

We have a lovely lady, Barb, on here, from Alaska. If she doesn't stop by soon, I'll ask her to come over.

The Orientals are not normally hardy up to zone 3, so I'm surprised you did get them to grow. If it's the fragrance your after, the OT lilies seem a little hardier.

I know some sites say if you heavily mulch the Orientals you can winter them over in Z4.

The Asiatics are very hardy, down to zone 1 or 2.

But let's see what Barb has to say.
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Jan 29, 2011 11:31 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Thanks Polly. It was so long ago I cannot remember what varieties they were but certainly older ones. I only had the 2-3 years before I moved and maybe we did not have that severe of winters for awhile. I have seen a few Ot that are lovely. I will wait for her to respond.
Steph
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Jan 30, 2011 4:01 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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I love OT's More blooms and some are fragrent.
Lots of lily people here to help.
This is Satisfaction
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Jan 30, 2011 10:13 AM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Very Pretty with a nice bright throat. Looks like it is very tall. The fragrance was one of the things that drew me to them back then, so lovely. If they have more blooms that is even better huh. I have so many Iris and Daylilies and they would be perfect to interplant with them I thought as need some more color when they are not in bloom.
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Jan 30, 2011 10:26 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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It is tall and that was the 3rd year.
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Jan 30, 2011 11:27 AM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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I have lots of O.T.'s they are the wonderful. Mine is in their coming up 4th year and they wer about 7 feet tall last year. Rather the ones the bunnies didn't eat the tops of that is............

Any way, I could stand by my pond, and when the breeze came right the fragrance would make you want to fall to your knees and thank god for his wisdom in these plants. They are truly wonderful. At night, walk the side walk by my garage was like heaven, (they are planted along that walk)


Most of my lilies are hardy to 3 or 4. I live in zone 5, Wisconsin, and I try to make sure my plants are hardy at least to 4 if not 3, gives me a tad more confidence they'll survive our winters here.

I have Satisfaction OT a long with a few others. I'd have to look up the names on my cards and I just dropped the box and they are all over the floor. When I want the cover to come off it doesn't................ Rolling my eyes.
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Jan 31, 2011 12:12 AM CST
Name: Barbara
North Pole, Alaska
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rebloomnut...Wow, zone 3/4. That's almost tropical! My thought is that cececoogan's post is probably appropriate for your area. I'm zone 1. While surprisingly we haven't seen it yet, we traditionally got down to -50 for a spell. Lowest this year has been -47ish. How cold do you get where you are in MT?

I grow a variety, but the only ones that are hardy are Asiatics. The LA's occasionally come back once, but then they disappear.

I have a labor intensive process which I wouldn't recommend any sane person start. All my orientals, trumpets (anything except the Asiatics) are grown in pots. Unpotted each fall. Semi-cleaned. Dusted w/fungicide. Stored in a refrigerator (Known as "The Lily Refrigerator" as opposed to my Honey's "Beer Refrigerator") at 34° from October to as long as I can keep them dormant in Feb/March when they are all repotted. They start their season's growth in a heated garage w/lights until mother Nature deems they can go outside, approximately June 1.

The stress usually causes some buds to abort in the garage Sad ...but the majority go on to do their thing throughout our phenomenal summer till late August. The ones that abort stay outside in an area of the yard we designate as Purgatory so they can grow nice healthy leaves to go through the process again.

Also, while they will multiply, you won't have swaths or big masses of any specific lily. You will get multiple stems or multiple bulbs that you can plant in the same pot. I envy the wide open paths and patches you can achieve by leaving them in the ground each year.

Unless you choose to keep it at a reasonably number, it's a ridiculous procedure...I'm hoping you are warm enough, that with plenty of mulch or locations up against your home to possibly find some Orientals or OT's that are hardy enough to make it through your winters in the ground...Anything is possible if you want it bad enough so if you want more details about my process, I'd be glad to provide them.

What IS nice is there seem to be a lot more Asiatics coming out yearly to bring some diversification. I was getting bored with them, but seem to find new ones that are a bit different...try
http://www.farawayflowers.com/
I have several Orientals from her that have survived the abuse I put them through for 4 years so far. Her Asiatics return each year. Her customer service is exceptional.
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Jan 31, 2011 6:47 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thanks for coming over Barb. I guess I wasn't thinking you were quite that cold. What the heck!

Steph, there really are some nice new Asiatics. And some now are slightly fragrant. But I would give some of the OTs a try. It doesn't make sense they would be hardier than the Orientals, since they are Oriental X Trumpet, but they seem to be for me.

Oh, and I would try to buy them in the spring if I were you. Let them get established over the summer.
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Jan 31, 2011 8:32 AM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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.That would be what I would do. Plant them come spring as soon as the soil it able to be worked.

I don't know how you feel about plant catalogs, but the Dutch Gardens 2011 has oodles of Lilies, Asiatic, oriental, trumpets, the orienpets. just to name a few. They say zones 4. van Bourgondien has lilies also. Go to your garden centers and nurseries and see what they recommend or sell.

I can't imagine, any more, what it would be like to not have iris, lily, peonies etc. on a home landscape. They are all so colorful, fragrant and nice looking plants. When we moved to this property 6 years ago almost 7 now there was not a single flower to be found. The former owner said they didn't DO flowers Since we moved in I have put in 27 garden beds and still planning more.

Good luck hope you find some that will be what you need them to be.

Cherie
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Jan 31, 2011 4:00 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Thanks so much everyone of you. What a wealth of information. I think I will order 2 OT and 2 Asiatics. I had some of those at the other place and they did well but I really miss those Oriental. I will have to drive by there this summer and see if there is any sign of them yet. Most of our winters we have gotten down to -30 only a few nights so I am thingking I will just put a heavy heavy mulch on them and see how they do. It is such a lot of work as Bark said to bring them in each year.
Steph

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