Plant ID forum: African Sumac (Searsia lancea)

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Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 17, 2015 10:50 AM CST
Came unmarked from trade xeriscape plant , Desert Willow Maybe ? Nevada Native Cleaning saved from destruction

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JRsbugs
Aug 17, 2015 2:01 PM CST
Note that it has tripartite leaves.

Do you know which area of Nevada it came from?
Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 17, 2015 2:43 PM CST
Las Vegas Area ..
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Aug 17, 2015 4:22 PM CST
Maybe Rhus lancea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_lancea
https://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/aridplants/Rhus_lancea...
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb455/bean120/IMG_0411_z...
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb455/bean120/IMG_0409_z...
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Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 17, 2015 4:25 PM CST
3rd photo link is a definite Match ,, I believe that is it
Thank You!
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Aug 17, 2015 4:37 PM CST
There is another that I thought it might be, Chilopsis linearis http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CHLI2

but I couldn't find a good pic of the leaves?
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Aug 17, 2015 4:48 PM CST
Here's a couple of pics of Desert Willow, C. linearis leaves -
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wFQsi0HGgxI/T8mMQUfy50I/AAAAAAAAAX...
http://www.pssc.ttu.edu/techhort/IMAGES/plants/desertwi/leav...
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JRsbugs
Aug 17, 2015 5:15 PM CST
Look at Searsia pendulina, which used to be Rhus pendulina.

http://www.wildcard.co.za/blog.htm?action=view-post&id=1400

http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantqrs/searsiapend.htm

Searsia lancea, the leaves look longer and generally narrower.

http://www.fireflyforest.com/flowers/3647/rhus-lancea-africa...

http://www.kyffhauser.co.za/Plants1/Searsia_lancea/Image3.ht...

http://www.prota4u.org/protav8.asp?en=1&p=Searsia+lancea

Whether the trees have different leaves when young is something I don't know. It's not native.

http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20m?kind=Searsia+lancea

http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20m?kind=Rhus+pendulina




Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 17, 2015 5:20 PM CST
Searsia lancea is indigenous in Zambia, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, South Africa and Lesotho. It is planted in hedges and as ornamental tree, e.g. in South Africa, but also in desert regions of the United States and Mexico, where it is locally naturalized


http://www.prota4u.org/protav8.asp?en=1&p=Searsia+lancea

There's nothing to say the same about Searsia pendulina.

http://www.prota4u.org/protav8.asp?h=M4&t=Searsia,pendulina&...
Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 17, 2015 5:27 PM CST
I will keep all these and Wait a while , something as these or near it is
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Name: Christine
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Aug 17, 2015 6:19 PM CST
Searsia lancea/Rhus lancea is said to be readily available in local Nevada nurseries. https://www.unce.unr.edu/areas/southern/files/pdf/newsletter...
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Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 17, 2015 6:36 PM CST
If it readily grows wild or self sows , that would explain these , I do not honestly know anything other than that , they are seedlings from an older plant , and that is where they are from
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Name: Christine
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Aug 17, 2015 7:01 PM CST
I don't know either, just trying to be helpful.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Aug 17, 2015 7:20 PM CST
Rhus lancea is listed on City of Las Vegas Tree Selection in Medium size trees, and further down with a description. I think this has to be it.

http://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic...

Leaves vary greatly..

Leaves arranged spirally, 3-foliolate; stipules absent; petiole 2–7 cm long, slender but slightly winged near apex, grooved above; leaflets sessile, narrowly lanceolate, often slightly sickle-shaped, 7–24.5 cm × 0.5–3 cm, cuneate at base, acute at apex, margins entire, thinly leathery, pinnately veined with numerous lateral veins.


http://www.prota4u.org/protav8.asp?en=1&p=Searsia+lancea

Searsia lancea is now the accepted name.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2479819

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