I probably spoke too soon, I don't have that many OT seedlings but lots of Asiatics and trumpets. I purchase seeds from other hybridizers to get material different from the named varieties on the market. Then when they grow up I do crosses with those. I went out and checked and found that I did plant out a few OT crosses from last year. Sooo... in a couple of years I hope to have something.
I designate this OT seedling as S-2, the "S" meaning I purchased the seed from David Sims. I have the record of what his original cross was but it is in his own shorthand. I have done a number of crosses to it, it seems reasonably fertile.
Like irises, I wouldn't sell a seedling unless it turned out very well. I dug and tossed a number of them last fall! Bud count and inflorescence are important, as well as disease resistance. It could be years before I get something I am truly happy with!