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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Aug 21, 2015 6:01 PM CST
Background history:

"Indian Giver" is a semi-evergreen diploid introduced in 1991 by Drew Ferguson. This cultivar is a semi-evergreen diploid with early to midseason blooms and may rebloom. It is also available as a tetraploid conversion.

This cultivar can be found in the ATP Plant Database:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Indian Giver')

This cultivar received the Award of Merit: 2000 and Honorable Mention: 1997.
It is both pod and pollen fertile and has 71 registered children currently: http://garden.org/plants/parentage/4891/





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Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Indian Giver')
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Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Aug 21, 2015 6:03 PM CST
While I can't comment on performance, I can say that this is one that caught my eye and I actually bought two of them this summer. They are still in pots awaiting to planted in a more permanent home. Look forward to what everyone else has to say about this gorgeous flower too. Smiling
Heidi
Coatesville IN (Zone 5b)
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Claudia
Aug 21, 2015 7:33 PM CST
This another one I added in 2009. I bought it and I also received some in a trade. It has increased very nicely here in zone 5b. I dug some out last summer and sent some to another ATP member and started me a me clump!

Mine comes in at 18-20 inches tall. Not sure about bud count but it does send up lots of scapes with blooms for a long time. It is not a reliable rebloomer here and it may not be many blooms. But most years I usually get at least a little rebloom on it. Some years it does not rebloom until September or October. It does go dormant here but often one of the first to peek thru in the spring.

Indian Giver is a great short one for the front of the bed. It is great to use multiple clumps of to make a border. The shade of purple is great to mix with about any other colors in your beds.

This is an photo of mine in the database and shows buds and scapes pretty clearly to get an idea of branching and bud count.



Photo from this year. Bloom this year started the last week of June & this photos was taken on July 17.
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Name: Kevin Smith
INDIANA (Zone 5b)
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kssmith
Aug 21, 2015 9:34 PM CST
I have grown Indian Giver for several years and has always done extremely well until this year. Seems like i have one plant every year that under perform so badly that it almost dies back before it gets started and this year it was Indian Giver. I think it actually ran out of space and had to compete with 2 others very close by.
But here is a pic of last years bloom.
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Did so badly this year i will have to buy more. One of my wives favorite purples.
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Name: Gale
CentralWa (Zone 6a)
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GDJCB
Aug 21, 2015 10:40 PM CST
I purchased Indian Giver in 2013, and it has performed well the past two years. It has had average increase for me, and did send up a couple rebloom scapes last year. It has a beautiful bloom that holds up well here, still looking good in late afternoon. I have been able to set a few pods the last two years, and have also used its pollen. I will try to get some stats for it tomorrow.

Gale
Name: Boyd Banks
Creston N.C. (Zone 6b)
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hillbilly
Aug 21, 2015 11:19 PM CST
INDIAN GIVER performs well in zone 6 and increases very well.
Name: Mayo
The Netherlands, Europe (Zone 9a)
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Mayo62
Aug 22, 2015 1:40 AM CST
thank you all for your info! Thumbs up

This ones STAYS on my wishlist! Whistling


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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Aug 22, 2015 6:00 AM CST
Indian Giver is such a pretty purple that I think it's a keeper. This year, I even got a rebloom scape, it just finished blooming a few days ago.

I still had 3 of the dried-up original scapes and the rebloom scape. Sorry to say that bud count is only between 6-8 per scape, with short 3-way branching. However, it increases so well, it sends up lots of scapes.

When I first purchased Indian Giver in 2011, I separated the double fan. It produces small fans, but today I can easily count at least 15 fans from one of the original fans. It is not a very huge clump because as I said, the fans are small and don't take up a lot of room. I guess what it lacks in bud count, it makes up for by having so many scapes. The other original fan that I planted has been divided to give some away in 2013, but even that one has increased nicely to 8 fans today.

In this picture, you can see that it blooms above the foliage, which is a trait that I really like.


This is just a close up of the same picture showing the branching and buds.
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Funny, but the rust resistant rating is 2.7. Now I have rust in my garden, but this one is kind of segregated from a lot of the other daylilies, but it only has a few very tiny rust spots. Not sure why, but with a 2.7 rating, I was surprised not to see more.

I'm also surprised my dh hasn't asked me why I keep leaving the computer and running outside Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing !

Edited to add: Indian Giver has only about a two-week bloom period here in my zone 6b garden. Then it is about another 4 weeks before I got the one rebloom scape this year.
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Name: Liz Quinn
Huntersville,NC (Zone 7a)
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Emquinn
Aug 22, 2015 6:13 AM CST
Indian Giver was one of the first daylilies purchased back in 2004 . Has always been a great performer. Draws your attention when it is blooming. I have a landscaper friend that is always asking for it, he wants the whole plant. Let him know where he can buy it. The color stays true in the heat. Have had it bloom for several weeks. It consistently blooms within 4-5 days at the same time every year. I liked it for the name. Definitely a keeper.

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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Aug 22, 2015 6:34 AM CST
I have had Indian Giver for 10 years and I probably will always have it in my garden. Although scapes are on the short side it is beautiful blooming when in a clump. It has never rebloomed for me in my zone but is very hardy and increases fairly well. It is both pod and pollen fertile and does well in hot sun. I had one year that it did not bloom because I had moved it.
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Name: Ashton & Terry
Jones, OK (Zone 7a)
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kidfishing
Aug 22, 2015 10:02 AM CST
I got Indian Giver in 2011, it did great for couple of years and it suddenly died.
I bought it again this year because i liked it so much.
I have lots of bloomed seedlings from sit and I think it's a fine parent.
Never rebloomed, not a ton of buds.
A garden favorite...
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Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Aug 22, 2015 12:04 PM CST
I've had Indian Giver for a long time now. Last year it bloomed like crazy. It needed to be divided after that, but I didn't get at it. It still bloomed a lot this year but not as much. I have to divide this year for sure. I just love this daylily. It is soooo very pretty. If I had to pick just ten (out of almost 200) in my garden, this would be one of the ten.


Name: Chuck
northern IL. (Zone 5a)
hubcap
Aug 23, 2015 8:56 AM CST
Indian giver is a nice daylily, it gets to about 2 feet tall and is loaded with buds and reliably reblooms here. I have it planted on the east side of the house where it gets afternoon shade and it still performs great here in zone 5a
Name: Jessie Worsham
Stockbridge, GA (Zone 8a)
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Jessie6162
Aug 24, 2015 10:18 AM CST
Indian Giver has performed well for me. Settled in quickly, not a huge bud count, but usually reblooms, and increases quickly. In fact, it is reblooming now. Here's a photo from last weekend.

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 24, 2015 6:12 PM CST
Indian Giver was new to me just about 1 year ago today so I can only relate how it has performed this first year. I am really happy with it! I can't give you bud counts or branching as I didn't keep track and probably never will. I don't hybridize so I'm not terribly concerned with those statistics. I generalize about number of blooms. When I received it I planted it in ground right away and let it get established over the fall & winter. It did very well especially considering June this year was a record breaker in terms of heat and we had almost zero rain the entire month. Indian Giver took it all in stride and is doing quite well. It bloomed well for a first year daylily and I have not noticed any rust thus far. I might add that starting in July we have had abnormally high humidity - killer humidity unusual for my particular area of FL, so I am happy with the performance in terms of rust.
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Aug 24, 2015 6:27 PM CST
Ann - Thank you for including information about it's rust resistance. I still find the rust ratings confusing, so it's great to hear that yours has had no noticeable rust at all. Thumbs up
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 24, 2015 6:46 PM CST
You're welcome Becky. Frankly I can't make heads or tails of the rust resistance ratings and because we are in FL where rust is a fact of life it seems then I really don't pay a whole lot of attention to those ratings when I am selecting dl's for my garden. I look at it this way...... if a dl doesn't get rust in my garden then I am overjoyed but if it does then I know it's pretty much par for the course in FL and try to take it with a grain of salt. So far so good here but I'm not going to say anything more than that for fear of jinxing myself. Whistling Hilarious!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
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beckygardener
Aug 24, 2015 7:07 PM CST
I have a border of various daylilies in full view in my front garden. The foliage looks terrible most of the time because of the rust. All of those plants are seedlings of unknown parentage. I have recently been acquiring rust resistant registered cultivars for hybridizing and also to grow clumps I can divide and eventually replace all the rusty daylilies in that front border. Being in full view makes my front yard garden look awful, so rust resistance cultivars has become a recent goal for me.
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Name: Margaret
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mcash70
Sep 3, 2015 4:47 PM CST
Indian Giver has always been one of my favorite daylilies, but it has not done well for me in the four years that I have had it, not many scapes, low bud count, this year it hardly any blooms at all and nothing worth taking a photo of. It has been very disappointing.

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Name: Freda/Blossom Gallop
Elizabeth City, NC 27909 (Zone 8b)
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Blossom
Sep 18, 2015 2:44 PM CST
Indian Giver is one of my all time favorites! It's a reliably great performer and multiplies well for sharing. I would hate not to have it in my garden. I've grown this cultivar approx. 20 years.

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Thanks, Freda (Blossom)
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