Lilies forum: I have lily seeds to give away

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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 12, 2010 7:58 PM CST
I have several batches of very difficult LA x Asiatic and a few Asiatic crosses that only produced one to a few seeds. Many of the Asiatic are crossed with mixed 4n asiatic pollen. Yields are low and seed is not well cleaned since I was planning to start it myself but have no use for it now. Also the paper coin envelopes I put it in are not that pretty having been previously used but I can make sure the cross is legible. There are about 20 packets with a couple of Trumpet crosses, one is PFC (pink yellow cream) X White Bicolor henryi and one is PFC X Emerald Angel. Those just didn't yield enough seed to list for sale.
I think postage will probably be about $2.00 and can just put one of my special hot pink, self addressed envelopes in with them you can use to pay me back.
I got serious about trying to cross the LA hybrids with 4n Asiatics since I do have a couple of seedlings from earlier crosses, but the seeds may not germinate even though they have embryos.
These will be more difficult than starting larger batches of lily seed, lily seedlings seem to enjoy growing close together for the first year and I usually put the small amounts in a bottomless band for extra drainage.
This week I spent putting my lily seeding flats out of the greenhouse into the cruel world where they will most likely die so I know I will never be starting these. I need all the greenhouse space to pot up plants and bulbs that will sell NOW, due to heavy losses the last few years I realize this is not a sustainable business in this state and there won't be a next year.
The photo is PFC.

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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Feb 12, 2010 8:25 PM CST

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I'm sure Measures 66 &67 wasn't much help either. I voted NO NO NO but people (idiots?) didn't listen. Just wait till the next election... for folks out of state, these measures raised taxes on all business in Oregon (because if you own a business you must be rolling in the dough). It has hit our farmers hard as well as all small businesses.

I got some seed from Tropical Dream X Anru; embryos but don't know if the seeds are good.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Feb 12, 2010 9:32 PM CST

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I'd love to try the seed, if you still have it, Lisa. I could send out an envelope. Trumpets would be my my favorite, but throw me whatever.

Let me know.

As far as the ,measures that passed, it seems like we forget where our food comes from, where our milk comes from and why the heck anyone would want to farm is beyond me these days(well, I often wish I were a farmer, who had recently won the lottery, so that I could afford to farm, with abundant losses year after year).

We need farmers. We don't need every one to be a business executive for Bank of America or Citigroup. Can you imagine where we'd be if that were the case?Oh yeah, in the Bahamas on a yacht sponsored by the taxpayer. Grumbling

Tracey

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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 13, 2010 2:17 PM CST
It doesn't much matter about the taxes, we don't earn enough to even pay fed taxes, but the state kills us and refuses to uphold the law for me since farmer bashing is what it is all about here. And forestry, and ranchers. The media is our worst enemy, they blame us for everything including global warming.
Unless you are a big farm, forestry etc, then you get all kinds of rules and taxes bent for you.

TRACEY - I WILL SEND THESE TO YOU!
Don't worry about the envelope, it seems I have more than a lifetimes supply of them!

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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 13, 2010 2:20 PM CST
I have a new theme song...here it is:

"Oh mothers tell your children not to do what I have done.... Spend your life in pain and misery because you thought growing plants would be fun..."

Tell them to become a lawyer instead of a horticulturist, or a pharmacist-my sister is paid an "obsene' amt. of money for that (her words)
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Feb 13, 2010 7:33 PM CST
I'd take seed if anything's left. Especially the LA x Asiatic, but whatever. I respect your eye for potential crosses.

Return postage+ guaranteed!
Cmail sent.

From your cross of
2 white w/ some green reverse,seed parent heavy substance. 2n


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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 15, 2010 9:57 AM CST
Speaking of oregon taxes and laws- they took everyone's right to build on their rural property away many years ago, some very small parcels were rendered worthless. My husbands tree farm was rendered worthless, he lost at least 30,000 on that, it was 20 acres of very steep ground, right next to a commune. Totally worthless to farm.
Due to high prices and anti farming laws such as that we were desperate after looking for many years and made the fatal mistake of buying this nightmare, we lost the cutflower business we moved here to grow. THANK YOU Linn county road dept. They just mowed the remains of our lower fence and a live baby Yew tree and spread wire, metal and chunks of wood all over the INSIDE of our field, and that isn't the worst they have done to us. We pay much gas tax for the tractors and farm trucks too. The environmentalist blame farmers and forest workers for loss of plants and habitat, but look to the roads, every year hundreds of acres are paved over and congestion is NOT relieved. Our rare Pink camass came from a roadside that no longer exists.
This nightmare of a farm was 2 weeks away from losing a building site forever when we saw it. Every thing was vandalized and stolen, we had to get a guard to stay here until we got the trailer moved in. This state thinks you can commute to your farm. We are almost always here and never catch the culprits that killed our birds, destroyed our fence, damaged our crops repeatedly.......
Anyone and everyone with a rural property can get an allowance to move in trailers and their extended families and do so, you should see what is down the road, a 2 acre parcel with 3 houses on it, and other buildings, one right on the road and river (supposed to be setbacks, loggers cannot log for at least 100 feet from rivers or streams) no good septic system either. Rumor has it they know a county commissioner, I believe I know which one having been totally screwed by him and is promises and lies.
We were denied farm deferral for many years, hay didn't pay enough. We cut down trees and let them rot rather than pay timber tax since the idea of tax deferral was to offset timber tax paid when trees were harvested. The reality is the tax is so high you can end up in the red from timber harvest.
We flooded badly in 1999, lost much valuable, NEW fencing and crops, were denied any help because the gov't was "fed up with bailing out Tillamook". The Power station was badly hit next to us and managed to get a 250,000 USDA grant to fix it due to the danger of PCBs ending up in the river, but the Dept of Fish and Wildlife refused to allow fixing of that because they "don't care about the people-fish were more important", they had to wait for a new leader of F&W to be allowed to fix it. Once the manager got that fixed they fired him and now LaComb Irritation District is screwing us.
Our roof is rotten from leaking skylights, the installer wouldn't fix and the manufacturer "Skyline" refuses to honor the warranty. The state agency that is supposed to help can do NOTHING.
The Lily garden moved to WA because the wacked out environmentalist had made getting water rights for farming IMPOSSIBLE here for many years.
And then there is the ethanol fiasco, many of our costs have doubled due to that so we no longer fertilize and this year I skipped slugbait. Good thing too with the cold having killed so many lilies in the field! But as our production cost rise the prices for our product plummet thanks to cheap imports.
So the big bad corporations that the media was targeting as evil and we should raise taxes on them probably won't feel a thing since they get so many other tax breaks, even the big farms. That leaves the struggling, nearly bankrupt companies to absorb that tax and we cannot even sell off unusable property to bail ourselves out. but anyone with a little chunk of property right on the river (which floods frequently) can build a house or 3.



Name: Diann
Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Ticker
Feb 15, 2010 11:18 AM CST
Move to Iowa. It's a farming state. Of course, we freeze our butts off in the winters. No red lily beetle here yet and hopefully not for a long long time. Iowa likes small entrepreneurs.

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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 15, 2010 9:50 PM CST
would love to but too old and too broke. In more ways than one!
Somebody has changed things around here haven't they?
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Feb 15, 2010 10:17 PM CST

Gone But Not Forgotten

I'm just playing with it. Tracey is going to find me a picture to use as a header, then I will match the rest of the cubit to it.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Feb 16, 2010 8:20 AM CST

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And did I ever find a nice picture! Polly, you have email! Hurray!
Tracey
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Feb 16, 2010 9:01 AM CST

Gone But Not Forgotten

Yes, ma'am you did. Pictures take me awhile to get right, so tonight when the grandkids go home, and after I take a nap....
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Feb 16, 2010 9:08 AM CST

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Have a great day with those grandkids, as you know, they grow up all too fast.
Tracey
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Feb 16, 2010 9:17 AM CST

Gone But Not Forgotten

Well, I will when they get up. Bumps, LOL. I was just telling Jo Ann, how can kids get up at 6:30 to go to school, and sleep until 10:30 other days.

They do grow up way too fast. They're 7 almost 8, and just turned 11. Jamie, my grandson is sweet, and very quiet. Jenna at 7 is a force to be reckoned with. She goes all the time. Last night at 10 PM she was wheeling her Barbie through the snow in the new Barbie car. Barbie was dressed lovely for a wedding.

In a week Jenna is getting her adult black belt in karate. I am so proud of her. She's the youngest ever in her dojo to get an adult black belt. And the dojo has been in existance for 35 years, and has 10 locations. Jamie got his last year. So I'm so proud of both of them.


Mr_Mom
Feb 19, 2010 11:12 PM CST
Lisa thanks for all the beautiful lilies you grew! I had a small city lot, and that seemed like a lot of work trying to keep the lily gardens etc. cleaned /weeded/watered/fed... I can't imagine being a farmer.

Thanks again,
Andy
Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
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mnorberry
Feb 26, 2010 2:52 PM CST
If you have any left, let me know.
Thanks

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BUGGYCRAZY
Feb 26, 2010 2:57 PM CST
mnorberry said:If you have any left, let me know.
Thanks


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