Plant ID forum: Bitter Gourd (Momordica charantia)

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Aug 25, 2015 10:03 AM CST
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
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mellielong
Aug 27, 2015 5:31 PM CST
None of you? Really? C'mon ATPers!
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 27, 2015 7:01 PM CST
Sure looks like it to me!

http://okeechobee.ifas.ufl.edu/News%20columns/Balsam%20Apple...
http://www.eattheweeds.com/bitter-gourd-balsam-pear-pharmacy...
https://floridanatives.wordpress.com/2010/10/11/balsam-apple...
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
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mellielong
Aug 27, 2015 7:11 PM CST
Lin, after looking at your links I see there is a Momordica balsamina and a Momordica charantia. I thought this was the former, but after reading I think it's the latter. Anyone out there want to chime in with an opinion?
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plantladylin
Aug 27, 2015 7:15 PM CST
LOL, I don't know one from the other but it sure looked like Balsam Apple I've seen before, I just don't know which one I've seen. Rolling on the floor laughing

It does look a lot like photos in the database for Bitter Gourd (Momordica charantia)
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
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mellielong
Aug 27, 2015 7:19 PM CST
Well, I was looking at the Florida Atlas of Vascular Plants because one of your links mentioned that M. balsamina was only found in St. Lucie County. Sure enough, the map showed that. And it showed the other species is found throughout Florida and it's also listed as a Category II invasive. So it would seem more likely to be M. charantia simply based on location.
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greene
Aug 28, 2015 6:17 AM CST
Sorry, I was busy and missed this thread. I also think it may be the M. charantia. The M. balsamina has longer spines than the M. charantia.
Here is Eat the Weeds article:
http://www.eattheweeds.com/bitter-gourd-balsam-pear-pharmacy...

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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
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mellielong
Aug 28, 2015 6:30 AM CST
Okay, I'm accepting that then based on the evidence!
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