Plant ID forum: Slenderstalk Beeblossom (Oenothera filipes)

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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Aug 27, 2015 8:45 AM CST
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I've admired the ferny foliage for a number of years... I finally caught a (tiny) flower on the subject...

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porkpal
Aug 27, 2015 11:52 AM CST
I don't know what it is, but it grows around here too. I'd also like to give it a name.
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plantladylin
Aug 27, 2015 1:01 PM CST
It does look a lot like White Gaura (Oenothera lindheimeri)
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frostweed
Aug 27, 2015 3:17 PM CST
I agree on White Gaura http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=GALI2
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Name: stone
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Aug 27, 2015 4:23 PM CST
I looked at both Gaura lindheimeri and Oenothera filipes... before posting these pictures....

The leaves don't match... And the flowers on my plant are positively tiny...

Will take additional pictures of the leaves....
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Horntoad
Aug 27, 2015 5:19 PM CST
My best guess is going to be one of the following
Oenothera simulans = Gaura angustifolia
Oenothera gaura = Gaura biennis
Oenothera xenogaura = Gaura drummondii
Here is the Wildflower Center's page for Guaras in Georgia.

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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Aug 28, 2015 10:04 AM CST
New pictures!

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The leaves on Oenothera suffrutescens seem close, but the colours and flower shape/size seem way different....
The leaves on Oenothera sinuosa seem close too... and the flowers are the right colour... but I can't find a size referent.

The flowers seem too large on this page... but the leaves seem right.
http://www.bio.utexas.edu/courses/bio406d/images/pics/ona/Ga...

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JRsbugs
Aug 28, 2015 10:38 AM CST
Look at Gaura filipes ..

http://www.southeasternflora.com/view_flora.asp?plantid=1133...

http://www.alabamaplants.com/Whitealt/Gaura_filipes_page.htm...

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=gaura+filipes
Name: stone
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Aug 28, 2015 10:49 AM CST
I'd considered guara / oenonthra filipes... This link shows the bloom spot on, but I can't find a match on the leaf.
http://www.namethatplant.net/plantdetail.shtml?plant=3625
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Chillybean
Aug 28, 2015 10:51 AM CST
I've been looking at this. I have Gaura on my property and I only have to assume it is the Biennial species because that is what is listed in the seed mix. They are quite difficult to identify.

The Scarlet Gaura photos (Oenothera suffrutescens) I looked at have smooth edges. Ex:
http://www.saskwildflower.ca/Oenothera%20suffrutescens2.jpg

The Oenothera xenogaura that Horntoad mentioned, looks closer, in my opinion. If this is what it is, you can be the first to add the photo to this plant.
Sweet Gaura (Oenothera xenogaura)

About flower colour, this can vary quite a bit. Even from early to late in the day. Photos are so hard to compare against for size. And looking through the internet can bring challenges because of misidentifications.



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flaflwrgrl
Aug 28, 2015 10:57 AM CST
Stone, I think you should take another look at Oenothera filipes
Slenderstalk Beeblossom (Oenothera filipes)




https://uswildflowers.com/detail.php?SName=Gaura%20filipes
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JRsbugs
Aug 28, 2015 10:57 AM CST
[quote="stone"]I'd considered guara / oenonthra filipes... This link shows the bloom spot on, but I can't find a match on the leaf.
]http://www.namethatplant.net/plantdetail.shtml?plant=3625[/q...

Did you look at the leaves on the southeasternflora site?

http://www.southeasternflora.com/view_flora.asp?plantid=1133...
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Aug 28, 2015 11:00 AM CST
http://www.southeasternflora.com/images/medium/Gaura_filipes...
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 28, 2015 11:02 AM CST
Here are the leaves:
http://www.florida.plantatlas.org/Photo.aspx?id=7751
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Name: stone
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stone
Aug 28, 2015 11:14 AM CST
@flaflwgrl
Yup... I wuz lookin at yer pics in the back...

There's a similarity...
Wonder if you could get a clearer pic of the leaves, when you get a chance?

Right now.... The leaves on sinuosa seem the closest.... With your flowers coming in as closest match on the bloom front...

Reckon that the people that name these things go by the flowers, more than the leaves.

I checked Fla plant atlas pics... Again, a poor representation of the foliage...

Edit:
I guess this is sorta close...
http://www.southeasternflora.com/viewfull.asp?picid=15150
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 28, 2015 11:24 AM CST
Let me see if I can edit my master photos to enlarge the leaves.
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Name: stone
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Aug 28, 2015 11:29 AM CST
flaflwrgrl said:Let me see if I can edit my master photos to enlarge the leaves.
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Don't you still have the plants?

Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 28, 2015 11:34 AM CST
The ones I took the photos of are on our other property & we aren't there right now. I'm sure we have the same here too but we had the bush hog in a couple weeks ago so that's a no go. There are some down on the easement that the county hasn't mowed yet. I will have to check & see if they are the same but if they are I can't take a photo right now as the sun is just going to make it impossible. I will have to try when it clouds over - IF it clouds over - or wait until late, late afternoon.
Still trying to edit this photo to make the leaves more viewable.
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 28, 2015 11:48 AM CST
This is the best I can do. I can't seem to make it enlarge. If someone can take this photo & enlarge it then by all means please do so.

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Name: stone
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stone
Aug 28, 2015 11:53 AM CST
No hurry...

I took my pics last night after it got dark...

The pics I take in the bright light... Aren't good...

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