Plant ID forum: (Polyscias)

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Kuhleenuh
Aug 28, 2015 5:07 PM CST
I don't know what kind of plant this is!

My grandmother had this plant and it was seriously neglected on watering which could be the reason for the peculiar shape.

The leaves are shiny and crinkly looking with serrated edges. Sometimes the leaves only have two lobes and sometimes there's a tiny lobe in the middle. The main stem becomes woody and then long stems branch off of it. From that stem, it sometimes clusters with each leaf having it's own little stem.

Thanks for the help!
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 28, 2015 5:17 PM CST
Hi Kuhleenuh, Welcome! to All Things Plants!

I'm not certain but I think it's Dinner Plate Aralia (Polyscias scutellaria) Some have solid green leaves while others have variegated foliage.
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greene
Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM CST
Welcome! Kuhleenuh,
I've never seen this plant before but ATP member @rattlebox has a few of these. Maybe he can join in and give us his opinion. Thumbs up
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Kuhleenuh
Aug 28, 2015 5:23 PM CST
Thanks plantladylin!

I looked at the pictures on the link that you shared and the picture on there that was posted by Paul2030 looks the most similar to mine!
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plantladylin
Aug 28, 2015 5:24 PM CST
You are very welcome ... I just enlarged this photo and the leaves are a match:
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JRsbugs
Aug 28, 2015 6:29 PM CST
This isn't the straight species Polyscias scutellaria.

http://www.starrenvironmental.com/images/image/?q=130316-254...

I found a possible match but the photo is illustrating diseases.

Polyscias scutellaria 'Tricochleata'

A suggestion from Art Whistler was:

Photo (left) P scutellaria 'Tricochleata'. This variety has yellowish-green leaflets that are roughly divided into three, toothed lobes. It is common in American Samoa, as are the Pseudocercospora leaf spots. The leaves of P scutellaria are noticeably larger, entire, and lightly scalloped, but not toothed.


http://www.pestnet.org/SummariesofMessages/Crops/Ornamentals...

Kuhleenuh
Aug 28, 2015 9:13 PM CST
Thank you JRsbugs for finding the more specific name!

There doesn't seem to be much information about this species.

My plant is sickly at the moment. It doesn't have much of a root system because previous soil that it was in was compacted and old. It is struggling to adjust after the shock of repotting into better soil and it has lost almost half of it's leaves.
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JRsbugs
Aug 29, 2015 5:50 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. You're welcome, kuhleenuh.

A google for Polyscias tricochleata does bring up more but with no information. It is regarded as a synonym of Polyscias scutellaria but there are obvious differences, it seems taxonomy hasn't quite caught up with this one.

However, Tropicos gives it as Polyscias scutellaria cv tricochleata so it seems it's being treated as a cultivar.

http://www.tropicos.org/Name/50006630?projectid=39

A cultivar[nb 1] is a plant or grouping of plants selected for desirable characteristics that can be maintained by propagation. Most cultivars have arisen in cultivation but a few are special selections from the wild.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivar

Typically, a cultivar would be treated as a named cultivated variety with a capital as in a name. As it was stated it is "common in American Samoa" and given the location of the island, my thoughts are it is a naturally occurring variety. Taxonomists have a huge job on sorting out names of plants from past mistakes.

There is a photo of one like yours under P. scutellaria, P. tricochleata is also listed on the Flora of North America ..

http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/floranam.php?genere=...





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