Orchids forum: hardy orchids

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Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
Aug 30, 2015 3:00 PM CST
Hey everyone. I bought two hardy orchids for my new shady raised beds: Cypripedium henryi and Epipactis gigantea. Anyone have these or related ones? Or any other hardy orchids? Share your experiences with me Hurray!
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Aug 31, 2015 10:40 AM CST
I don't have any of those but it seems Epipactis gigantea is native here in California. Check this link: http://www.theodorepayne.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Epipa...

So it seems to be native along coastal California, sub alpine forests, foothill woodlands, not here on my very dry side.
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Name: Karen
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kousa
Sep 1, 2015 6:36 AM CST
I have bletilla striata and bletilla ochracea. Striata bloomed in June and Ochracea blooms in August for my zone. I have the Ochracea in a pot because it is probably too tender for my zone but the yellow flowers are so pretty.

Here is bletilla Ochracea

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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Sep 1, 2015 7:31 AM CST

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Lee - Roy
@boojum grows some very nice Cypripedium in her garden, perhaps she will chime in.
I don't know if anyone here grows the Epipactis gigantea.
Name: Kathy
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boojum
Sep 3, 2015 12:29 PM CST
I have a few hybrid Cyps. I fertilize with bone meal in fall. Plant them in spring or fall by spreading the roots out in a circle near the surface but covered. They love mulch.
I get some from my neighbor Peter. Here are his instructions:
http://www.hillsidenursery.biz/growing-information.php

tnnursery
Feb 9, 2016 5:06 PM CST
Arico said:Hey everyone. I bought two hardy orchids for my new shady raised beds: Cypripedium henryi and Epipactis gigantea. Anyone have these or related ones? Or any other hardy orchids? Share your experiences with me Hurray!
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I went to an antique trade show and found some from this online nursery
http://www.tnnursery.net I dont know if she's got anymore or not but it's sure worth a try.
Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Feb 9, 2016 5:57 PM CST
I grow Epipactis gigantea. It is a native to California and the whole Pacific coast (north and south) up to an elevation of about 8000 feet. Epi's grow along streams in gravel beds. To try to copy those conditions, I got a small water trough (15 gallons) from the local feed store, poked holes in it a couple inches below the rim and buried it up to its rim in my garden. I filled it with a combination of gravel and potting soil and gave it a micro-sprinkler attached to my drip system. If you don't keep them wet, they will go dormant (they do go dormant in winter). They grow surprisingly fast.

I have both versions: Epipactis gigantea and E. gigantea var rubrifolia. Rubrifolia only grows in one place in Sonoma Co. in the California serpentinite belt so it is often called 'Serpentine Night'. The leaves are almost black but the flowers are just slightly darker versions of the original.

I grew them when I lived in California (zone 8) and they do great here in Reno also.

Daisy
Name: Ruud
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RuuddeBlock
Feb 10, 2016 4:56 AM CST
They should do well in Belgium but perhaps someone at OVV has experience? ( http://www.pnporchids.be/)

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Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
Feb 10, 2016 5:15 AM CST
Thank you Daisy Smiling I planted mine in a corner of the lowest bed. It doesn't receive direct sunlight (perhaps maybe an hour in the morning) but it is light shade. It's damp and wet on its own due to the shade and moist clay soil. I added some gravel and sand before planting so hopefully I see it popping up this spring.
Name: Ruud
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RuuddeBlock
Feb 10, 2016 3:02 PM CST
Your neighbours once removed to the east grow lots of Cypripediums. If you know enough German try this: http://www.haus.de/garten/ziergarten/die-gartenorchidee-fasz... The author ( Ursula Schuster) has written many articles about hardy orchids (hardy as in Germany, so certainly in Bilzen!) so check her out.
Patrick Mannens published a great article about growing Cypripediums in Belgium in NOV Orchideeen 2014!



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Name: Ursula
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Feb 10, 2016 4:29 PM CST

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Nice article, thanks! Smiling
Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Feb 10, 2016 8:54 PM CST
If your Epipactus doesn't do well, I would look at the amout of sun its getting and also increase the water.

Good luck.

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Name: tarev
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tarev
Feb 10, 2016 9:14 PM CST
Oh, I would like to try Epipactis gigantea too! Thanks for the growing info on your area Daisy, sounds like I can grow it here too, maybe I will try semi-hydro method.
Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Feb 11, 2016 11:54 AM CST
Tarev,

When I lived in the San Joaquin valley, the only thing that slowed them down were marading racoons.

Feet in water and sun. That's all they need.

Daisy

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