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Sep 7, 2015 3:45 PM CST
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Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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I have been going thru the site for a while. I just saw the thread for a mobile compost bin (homemade). I was curios if anyone here has tried to make it? Here is a link to the thread. The thread "mobile compost barrel" in Soil and Compost forum. If you have, how has it worked. I have a rather large propane tank. Not sure if it would be good for it. What do you think?
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Oct 8, 2015 5:41 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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creativeclover said: I have a rather large propane tank. Not sure if it would be good for it. What do you think?


You'll certainly need drainage holes! If the holes are large, and in good contact with soil, worms will be able to find your composting stuff and help out. You need to keep it moist, but if water accumulates in the bottom, your wonderful aerobic composting microbes will die and be replaced by nasty, stinking, toxic anaerobic fermenting bacteria. Those bums will pump out harmful alcohols, organic acids, ketones and aldehydes. The water HAS to drain out so air can get in.

Compost piles also need good aeration, perhaps many large holes along the side of the tank. Hopefully people who have used bins and barrels for a while will chime in about what is "sufficient" aeration. I only compost in an open, shallow heap, so I don't know how many holes you need when you seal a compost heap inside a metal shell and still have it stay 100% aerobic.

Another issue: consider how much work it will be to shovel plant matter in, shovel compost out, and turn the heap. You have to lift stuff up and over the lip to put it in. You have to reach a shovel down into it to scoop any out. (Hopefully you can dump the tank empty when it's finished.) How do you turn compost inside a tank?

If it were just a heap sitting on the soil, that effort is minimal. Dump a wheelbarrow, stir with a garden fork, hoe or rake the finished compost into a wheelbarrow with its nose tipped down and wiggled into the pile.


Really, though, what do I know about that way of composting? I haven't tried it yet.
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Oct 25, 2015 1:44 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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What an interesting idea. Since a propane tank is round, I'm sure something could be rigged to make it rotatable, depending on just how large and heavy it is. I'm curious to know if it works.

For me, I stick to my easy Worm Factory bin, but I love hearing about others' success with different methods. This is one of the more interesting ideas I've heard.
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Dec 20, 2015 8:51 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Arkansas (Zone 8b)
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I tried making a compost bin on the ground with old tin around it but critters were able to get into it (armadillos, etc.). A lady was selling an old compost tumbler for $50 so I bought it.
I think you could do something similar with an old propane tank.


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Screens on sides & barrel. I think if you cut holes & then put screening over the holes, it would be the same.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:11 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Wow, Kathy you got a raging deal there! Big compost tumblers like that cost hundreds of dollars to buy new.

I'm doing some research for my daughter who lives in Utah. They are dedicated composters, and in the growing season through late fall they have tons of leaves and grass clippings so they use two wire baskets. Her husband has become an expert composter and they get good stuff from all their efforts.

But, in winter it's cold and dry there. The wire compost bins sit at one end of their deck where it is very handy to empty the compostable food scraps and coffee grounds etc. into them without going down the stairs. Now, she says they are having rodent problems getting into the compost because it never gets turned in the winter.

Has anyone used a small portable composter for winter composting of just small amounts of food scraps etc. ? They want one they can keep on the deck handy to the kitchen door, and move easily in the spring once they start using the big wire bins again.

Would appreciate all your expert input here!
Elaine

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Dec 29, 2015 1:37 PM CST
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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How about a plastic kitchen garbage can with lid? Drill a few holes for air/drainage and line with hardware cloth?
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Jan 12, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Arkansas (Zone 8b)
"Pets should not be a whim"
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Here's a link for a garbage can composter. Hope I do this right!!!

www.uaex.edu/yard-garden/vegetables/

Scroll down & click on Easy Compost - FSA 6029

Sorry, I don't know how to link directly for downliads.
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Jan 12, 2016 11:56 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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Hi Kathy!

See if this link works for you, for the garbage-can-composter PDF:
http://www.uaex.edu/publicatio...

Actually, I think the top-level link you gave has lots of good info.

BTW, I just saw the wheels and little groove and the hand-crank on your composter. Nice features!
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Jan 12, 2016 12:02 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Arkansas (Zone 8b)
"Pets should not be a whim"
Region: Arkansas Bromeliad Dog Lover Region: Louisiana Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plant and/or Seed Trader
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@RickCorey, thats it!!! Thank you!!!! And I love my composter. My husband said it was a waste of $50 plus the $20 I had to give my nephew to help me get it, but I'm satisfied.
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Jan 12, 2016 12:13 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
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Waste of $50!?! No vegetables for HIM!

I've been cruising that U of Arkansas cooperative extension service website, and it's the best one I've seen.


I ordered a few cubic yards of topsoil from a local dirt yard once. They dumped it and came to the door to be paid.

To tease me and give them a laugh, Becky my DSO began acting shocked:
"You paid $100 for DIRT!!!!!?!!!! How COULD you!!????!! What a WASTE!!!"

We figure they drove back to work chuckling about how much trouble I was in for buying their "dirt".
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May 15, 2016 8:04 AM CST

I wood like to have the plan or know how to build the two (2) barrils , one over each other, for composting.

Thank you and i am french, so not very good english!
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May 15, 2016 8:53 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Here's a link to a Youtube video of how to do it, Bhogi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Elaine

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May 16, 2016 4:39 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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Welcome to NGA/ATP, Bhogi!

Good luck making compost. My theory is that anything you can do in a barrel, you can do in a heap on the ground.

(Except for keeping animals out, and hiding the compost from the neighbors.)
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May 16, 2016 8:01 PM CST
Name: Heath
sevierville TN (Zone 7a)
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I would much rather make compost on the ground instead of a barrel. But I don't have a problem with neighbors or animals Whistling
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May 24, 2016 6:20 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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plantcollector said:I would much rather make compost on the ground instead of a barrel. But I don't have a problem with neighbors or animals Whistling


Vermicomposting is a lot of fun, though; I recommend trying it!
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May 24, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Name: Paul
Madison, IN (Zone 6a)
Many companies have plastic or metal 55 gallon drums that they have to pay to get rid of. Some of them contained food-grade chemicals, so easy to clean and use. Black is preferable, blue can work. A drill and less than an hour's work and you have exactly what you need (if its plastic, metal is a bit more work). Ask local factories and/or food processors for good barrels.
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May 25, 2016 9:02 PM CST
Coldspring, Texas (Zone 8b)
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I made a keyhole bed in my home garden with a hardware wire tube in the center for scraps. The wire tube is topped with a plant saucer so no critters can get in except my decomposing little guys. Also safe from vermin are the worm bins.

Yard litter and trimmings get the pile treatment. No furry critters! (This year I topped the branch pile with soil as a pseudo-Hugelkultur bed which is now spiked with sweet potatoes. Franken-gardening experiment!) Green Grin!
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Jul 15, 2016 7:01 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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I made compost bins out of an old cedar deck, I cut the boards to 3' lengths, than clamped several of them together with pipe clamps. Set my circular saw for a 1" cut and notched the boards, knocked the plugs out with a hammer.
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You can stack them as high or low as you want, additionally when the interior sides get wet you just flip them around, they get plenty of air just because they are fairly loose; very easy to turn the compost. I call them adult Lincoln Logs. The system allows me to make all of the compost I need, and recycled the lumber.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Jul 15, 2016 7:23 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
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Very COOL! Like a log cabin!
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Jul 16, 2016 9:39 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
RickCorey said:Very COOL! Like a log cabin!



Exactly! You can make it as tall or short as you want, so it grows with you.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

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