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Aug 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
The Cockers still love to talk lilies. I don't get to all the local lily society meetings, but they are always there when I am.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Jul 14, 2012 3:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
L. maculatum var. wilsonii
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Lilium[/ 'Prawn Tiger'
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Lilium[/ 'Prawn Tiger' x L. maculatum var. wilsonii
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When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Jul 14, 2012 3:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Lilium 'Sweet Surrender'
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Lilium 'Dots and Dashs'
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Lilium 'Sweet Surrender' x Lilium 'Dots and Dashs'
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Jul 14, 2012 4:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Lilium leichtlinii
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Lilium maculatum var. wilsonii
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Lilium leichtlinii x Lilium maculatum var. wilsonii

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When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Jul 14, 2012 6:27 PM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
Plant and/or Seed Trader Hellebores Birds Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Art Cat Lover
Hmmmmm Thumbs up nice
lily freaks are not geeks!
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Jul 14, 2012 8:00 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Love them all, Rick. The Sweet Surrender X Dots And Dashes~~~all are great!
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Jul 14, 2012 9:15 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
Garden Photography Tomato Heads Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Pollen collector Forum moderator Hybridizer
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Very nice my friend.
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Jul 15, 2012 7:20 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Yes, Very Nice, Indeed!! Rick, you can be very proud and happy with the rewards of your good work. Very enjoyable for us to see and follow right along with you! Hurray!
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Jul 15, 2012 8:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
And isn't it interesting how the yellow from L. leichtlinii and the light orange from L. maculatum produced a dark Holloween orange in the offspring. There is no variation of the color in all the babies so far: fairly usual for a primary species cross. At least some of them seem to be extremely vigorous. The single florets, of course, didn't bloom last year. However, numbers 1-3 had only one flower each last season! This year #1 has 15 (including 4 sercondaries) and #2 has 9 !
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Jul 15, 2012 10:39 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Yes, interesting! I wonder if, tho, the color will shift to more yellow in a couple days (disregarding heat and sun fade). Holloween color--I was thinking the same term this morning when I looked at them!
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Jul 15, 2012 7:12 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Roosterlorn said: I wonder if, tho, the color will shift to more yellow in a couple days (disregarding heat and sun fade).


The first flower (#1) opened July 1st, and the latest pic shown was taken July 8th. So I have had several flowers wain, and the color has not faded or changed, even in the heat. Actually I like color changing flowers. Some of my aurelian hybrids change with age from a sherbert orange to white. I seem to be one of the few who grow Spiraea japonica 'Shibori'. It's been around for quite some time, but hasn't seem to catch on with the public.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Jul 20, 2012 9:02 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
All good, Rick. I've got two Aurelian hybrids that changed color as you speak of--caught me by surprize, then it dawned on me, the color had changed from sherbert orange to white. It looks like they're going to be too 'top floppy' tho to be of much use, we'll see next year. Actually, this year was so bad it made good evaluations next to impossible, except to make note of those with exceptional heat and drought tolorance.
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Jul 23, 2012 11:40 AM CST
Name: Christine
Southeastern MN (Zone 4a)
Heucheras Garden Ideas: Level 2 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I sent a postcard to Randy! Garden Ideas: Level 1
Region: Minnesota Hostas Keeps Horses Birds Farmer Daylilies
Cute -- they look like freckeld frenzy! I just made up that name!
"Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."
2 Corinthians 9:6
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Jul 23, 2012 8:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Roosterlorn said:All good, Rick. I've got two Aurelian hybrids that changed color as you speak of--caught me by surprize, then it dawned on me, the color had changed from sherbert orange to white. It looks like they're going to be too 'top floppy' tho to be of much use, we'll see next year. Actually, this year was so bad it made good evaluations next to impossible, except to make note of those with exceptional heat and drought tolorance.


Except for the references to heat, that could have been a word-for-word quote from me about some seedlings that resulted from White henryi and Madame Butterfly! I posted on it years ago (2010) but there is no advance search mode here so I can't waist that much time looking for it. I really do miss the organization the moderators here had when they had their own cubit.... Some pics from that cross is earlier in this thread.
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Jul 23, 2012 9:32 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
Forum moderator Region: Pacific Northwest Sedums Sempervivums Lilies Hybridizer
Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Pollen collector Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I miss the format of Cubits too, where you could have a whole forum on say, starting from seed.

What I recommend for you to do is use the star system here. It is the next best thing for looking for something in a buried thread. If there is a post that you think you might want to look at again later (your own or someone else's), just click on the star and it will be saved on your profile page. When you bring it up again from your profile page the list of threads that have a starred post comes up.

You will want to use this sparingly because you still have to physically search through the list of threads where the starred posts appear.

If you haven't tried this, feel free to look at my starred posts on my profile page and click on one to see how the specific post comes up. It is like bookmarking something but more convenient because it is all on your profile page.
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Jul 23, 2012 9:52 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
What's interesting Rick, is we've both seen the same thing. I had no idea you had posted something ealier. The two I have came from Len Sherwin from Wyoming. They were in a group of about 20 of field run stock (not culls) so I have no Idea what the parentage is. I've got a couple pics I'll post over on my 2012 thread when I add some more over there. All this is 'good and interesting'
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Aug 2, 2012 4:40 AM CST
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
A few years ago I got some seeds from Rick, they where L. davidii var. willmottiae. This is the second year they are blooming. The strange thing is that I have one other cross with L. davidii, one new type from China crossed with a tango. The seedlings from both crosses are quite similar.
The pictures are seedlings from the seeds from Rick. I don't have pictures of the others from the other L. davidii cross but I will take pictures of them when the rain stops.

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Ille bra,se.
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Aug 2, 2012 5:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Nice job!

The seeds I sent you were L. davidii var. willmottiae x something unknown (open pollinated). I only had one L. davidii clone at the time, and I doubt the species is self-fertile. Your pics do show characteristic evidence of crossing outside the species. We can rule out apomixis, because none you show are exact copies. For comparison, this is the pod parent of your seed, Øystein.



Now that I have more than on blooming L. davidii clone, I have hand pollinated them and have three pods developing that will be pure L. davidii.
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Aug 6, 2012 5:49 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
An accomplishment to be happy about! Good L. Davidii's are nice to have around!
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Aug 6, 2012 8:53 AM CST
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
I like them both and they are a little different than L. davidii. I was only surprised about the colour, had a hope for other clolour. But I will keep them both, maby pollinate the one on the second picture in my greenhouse next year.
Ille bra,se.

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