Texas Gardening forum: Your first plant ID

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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Jun 2, 2010 9:15 PM CST
Here I am first in line to get an ID!!

This should be easy but I cannot confirm the leaves. I think it's Mexican hat??

I wanted to send another pic but it won't let me respond & says only admins can.

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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Jun 3, 2010 9:12 AM CST
That's what it looks like to me. Possibly Ratibida peduncularis
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=RAPE3
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jun 3, 2010 6:48 PM CST
Do you have a pic of the whole plant?
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Jun 3, 2010 7:54 PM CST
Yes, here's a pic of the whole plant. It's sitting in the middle of the bench - yes it's a bench! Isn't it a great bench?

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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Jun 3, 2010 8:03 PM CST
I reviewed the link that you sent above and the flower looks just like the one in those pics but once again, there wasn't really a good shot of the leaves.

If you cannot see the leaves well enough, I will get a better pic tomorrow. LMK.
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Horntoad
Jun 3, 2010 8:12 PM CST
I'm almost positive it's Ratibida peduncularis, Naked Mexican Hat.

Mexican Hat (Ratibida columnifera ) is found in almost everystate. Naked Mexican Hat ( Ratibida peduncularis) is only found in Texas and Louisiana.
If you happen to collect some seeds I would love some.
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Jun 3, 2010 8:18 PM CST
I will most certainly collect some seeds. I'll contact you when they are ready.

Thank you for your help!
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 4, 2010 4:26 PM CST
Thought I would add a pic of the leaves.

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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Horntoad
Jun 4, 2010 10:27 PM CST
The most recognizable difference between Mexican Hat (Ratibida columnifera ) and Naked Mexican Hat ( Ratibida peduncularis) is the leaves of R. columnifera go most of the way up the stalk near the flower. In R. penduncularis the leaves or mostly near the base with the flower high above on a "naked" stalk. In this picture of my Mexican Hat you can see how high the leaves go. This link is to a good picture of Naked Mexican Hat that shows the naked stalks.
http://educators.btnep.org/client_files/editor_files/Ratibid...

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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 5, 2010 9:59 AM CST
Oh yes, I definitely see the difference; as subtle as it is. I am quite certain mine is the Naked Mexican Hat.

Once the flowers get to blooming better, I will submit another picture. Right now, only two flowers are up.

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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 5, 2010 10:05 AM CST
The flowers are coming up on long "naked" stalks.

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Name: Lee
Willis, Texas
Tweedle_Lee_Dee
Jun 12, 2010 7:43 AM CST
OK........I have dial up,..so the download (or up load).... is slow.

This plant was given to me and dug in East Texas........looks similar to a Blueberry bush in some ways

The plant now has small berries that look like blueberries (still green)....but they're only about twice the size of a BB.


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Name: Lee
Willis, Texas
Tweedle_Lee_Dee
Jun 12, 2010 7:47 AM CST
Close up of flower

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Name: Lee
Willis, Texas
Tweedle_Lee_Dee
Jun 12, 2010 7:54 AM CST
another shot - thanks in advance!

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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jun 12, 2010 8:51 AM CST
Ok here is my best guess it is Lyonia genus. There are two varieties that are supposed to grow in Texas, Lyonia mariana and Lyonia ligustrina. My guess is it is L. mariana.
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=LYMA2
http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Lyonia_mariana_page.h...
The flowers of L. ligustrina are more round than yours, here is a picture of L. ligustrina.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=LYLI&photoID=lyli...
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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 12, 2010 9:20 AM CST
Here just shows Lyonia mariana. says it doesn't have fruit, but frons? or something like that...
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/nativeshrubs/...

I was thinking it looks much like my Farkleberry, Huckleberry, Sparkleberry, Vaccinium arboreum, except you said the berries appear twice the size of blueberries and farkleberry has smaller berries.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/nativeshrubs/...

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Name: Lee
Willis, Texas
Tweedle_Lee_Dee
Jun 12, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Heh, heh,......my apologies Christine....but I wasn't abbreviating blueberry....but meant the little BB from a BB gun! The current berries (although they're green) are maybe double that size......that's still much smaller than my blueberries

I looked at all the pages you & Jay offered.....and I intend to research more because of the similarities with each

I remembered a detail that perhaps may be relevant..........Becky also gave me (along with what we deemed "mystery plant")...a couple of Farkleberry that she dug for me (bless her little bush-diggin' heart!) ....I wonder if somehow the tags were inadvertently switched.....hmmmmmm,...(were those the plants which were knocked over....and I only hoped I got the labels in the right pots?)

More investigation required Rolling my eyes.

Thanks y'all ..................I'll let ya know what I can find now!
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jun 12, 2010 1:42 PM CST
Hilarious! isn't it funny how the brain works sometimes?? hahaha

And yes, my brain only works sometimes!

Go Becky! because those aren't always easy to dig up, especially if she has the typical clay soil that we have!

Did you notice the fall color? If it's farkleberry, you would probably notice the vibrant fall colors of various reds.

let us know what else you find out.
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
The WITWIT Badge Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Critters Allowed Birds Bee Lover
Dragonflies Herbs Keeper of Poultry Vegetable Grower Composter Hummingbirder
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wildflowers
Jun 18, 2010 1:32 PM CST
Ran across more pics of Farkleberry.

This image was taken in October.

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May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
The WITWIT Badge Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Critters Allowed Birds Bee Lover
Dragonflies Herbs Keeper of Poultry Vegetable Grower Composter Hummingbirder
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wildflowers
Jun 18, 2010 1:38 PM CST
Farkleberry in April.

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