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Sep 30, 2015 7:37 PM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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Later, in a year or two when all of us have Itohs flowering we should all post pictures of what we have as Bartzella etc. and compare these.
Tracey probably knows better than I, as to the yellow Itohs.
None of mine have flowered yet.
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Sep 30, 2015 11:16 PM CST
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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Alex, your yellow peony looks very similar to Bartzella. However, I don't recall mine having wiry long stems as the way your is showing in the third pic. It looks almost like the flowers are hanging. I remember the flowers on my Bartzella bloom at the foliage or just a bit higher and on very thick and straight stems.
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Oct 1, 2015 10:12 AM CST
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
You are right Karen. I thought so myself because I never saw anything similar on the pictures of Bartzella online. The distance between foliage and flowers are rather noticeable.
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Oct 4, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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You might run yours through that site under the first Sticky?
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Oct 7, 2015 10:27 AM CST
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
How to do Sticky if you want to try? How long it will stay there?
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Oct 7, 2015 2:43 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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I am adding a few basic stickies and they will stay there permanently. My goal is to have basic information regarding peonies there, grafting, planting, dividing (eventually).
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Jan 18, 2016 9:36 PM CST
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
I think I can say with confidence that it is Bartzella - I noticed the old thread
The thread "Itohs, New & Old" in Peonies forum
from Frank and his Bartzella has long stems as well. Funny part is that mine supposed to be First Arrival as well. I guess TC peonies not only mislabeled, but have different development time frame as well.
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Jan 18, 2016 10:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
Funny that in Southern Peony blog problem with switched Bartzella and First Arrival mentioned as well.
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Jan 18, 2016 10:34 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
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Did you get them from the same supplier, I wonder, Alex?
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Jan 18, 2016 10:58 PM CST
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
I guess someone in Planteck or similar TC producer mislabeled Bartzella with First Arrival, dissected the plant million times and thousands customers from all over North America are scratching their heads and trying to figure out what went wrong.... Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 20, 2016 12:02 AM CST
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Name: Liz Best
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Bartzella is a beautiful yellow, could've been much worse!
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Jan 20, 2016 7:29 PM CST
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Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7b)
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Here is another yellow Itoh : 'Shining Light'. It's foliage is different from 'Bartzella's', too
Thumb of 2016-01-21/Mieko2/790e38
LG - My garden grows with love and a lot of hard work.

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