Insect and Bug ID forum: What came out of my pupa?

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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Sep 26, 2015 7:04 PM CST
Ok folks, this started on the plant ID thread so check that out here: The thread "Another one from my neighbor's property" in Plant ID forum

Janet thought that the pupa looked more like something that would parasatize a caterpillar. I kept it to see what would come out and today it did. I had to take photos through the container because I don't want that flying in my house and I'm not letting it go until I know what it is. So please do your best with my pictures.

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flaflwrgrl
Sep 26, 2015 7:11 PM CST
Oh cool Melanie. I've seen those many times. Once in a while they get in the house too. I always call them mayflies even though I realize they are NOT mayflies but I don't know what else to call them. I'll be very curious to know what they really are.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Sep 27, 2015 5:01 AM CST
It's a wasp! Wasps are also famous for parasitizing caterpillars.

Ichneumonidae, subfamily Ophioninae. There will me many similar, it would be difficult to say which it is unless you have a specimen or several photos showing close detail of parts.

http://bugguide.net/node/view/43468/bgpage

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JRsbugs
Sep 27, 2015 5:10 AM CST
If it is an Enicospilus sp. then there are several of them ..

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-3113.1988....

More info ..

http://www.amentinst.org/GIN/Ophioninae/
Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Sep 27, 2015 9:47 AM CST
I wouldn't have recognized your bug as a wasp but it sure is!! Looks like Janet has it right with Enicospilus sp. (of course Smiling ) from the bugguide images and the descriptions.

This could be the one: http://www.pbase.com/dydmd/image/147278567
From: http://www.pbase.com/dydmd/insects_of_florida&page=all
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
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mellielong
Sep 27, 2015 1:14 PM CST
Thanks guys! I guess I assumed it must be wasp since it's either that or flies that parasatize caterpillars. I've just never seen this particular wasp come out of a pupa before. It did kind of remind of those Thread-Waisted Wasps I've seen as far as body shape, but I just wasn't sure. As always, I can count on the Bug ID forum for answers!
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Sep 27, 2015 1:30 PM CST
I get these coming to the outside light, some are quite big. The wing venation and shape of abdomen, often the head features as well are the usual clues to which species they are.
Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Forum moderator Plant Identifier
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mellielong
Sep 27, 2015 2:22 PM CST
I do get things with the long legs like that at my lights, too. I'm generally busy trying to flee them but I'll try and take a look every now and then. Maybe I'll learn something!
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Shell
Sep 28, 2015 1:29 AM CST
I had these last Summer. I thought they were mayflies too. They bite! (and they hurt!) Nice to finally know. Ugh! Thank You!
Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Larva tested, Pupa approved!
Butterflies Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Florida
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Forum moderator Plant Identifier
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mellielong
Sep 28, 2015 4:55 PM CST
Glad we could help you out too, Shell!
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