Plumeria forum: Late bloomer?

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Name: Thea
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cherryb1ossoms
Oct 23, 2015 1:51 AM CST
My first bloom out all the cuttings I had rooted this summer. I was hoping to see my red pulmeria but might have to wait until next year.

@Tarev-have you moved your pulmerias indoors yet? I haven't because the weather has been 80's the last week or two. They have been outdoors since the last time we talked. Thanks.

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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Oct 23, 2015 5:22 AM CST
Hurray! Nice bloom here Thea. I always enjoy plumerias that bloom late in the season.

My red one is still blooming nicely, the 2nd tio opened up. A new seedling is ready to open any day now. And I have 4 more plumerias forming new inflos Hurray! Hurray!
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Name: Lucky
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luckyzl230
Oct 23, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Nice Hurray! I like how big the flower is. My first bloom this year produced just one small flower.

I have not moved mine it yet Cherry. All are on my Front patio porch facing the south. Still getting good sun but once the night temps fall to 50 or below I've told it's time to move them in or go into dormancy
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Oct 23, 2015 9:44 AM CST
Hello Thea! No, I have not moved my Plumerias indoors yet, but slowly scaling back watering. Our temps are really nice right now, still comfortably warm. Although I am closely watching the overnight temps. The way I see it, I have until Oct. 27 to Oct 31 to decide. I think I may start to bring my smaller noid Plumie by that date. As for my Plumie Celadine, I have observed this to endure the cool temps nicely and enjoys the winter rains. It will just depend later if we will have very strong winds or that odd hard freeze warnings as winter arrives later. Looking at November forecast, it seems that is where the low overnight 40's is going to show, so definitely all the other sensitive plants have to be in..orchids, euphorbias, croton etc.
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Oct 23, 2015 8:22 PM CST
Hmmm I'm hoping for a warmer winter so I don't have to move my plants in till late Dec or January.... Like last year.

Here are the blooms of my red no ID. The leaves are turning yellow from the rust.
First inflo
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Second inflo
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Notice how the colors are lighter now that the weather is cooler.

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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Oct 23, 2015 8:49 PM CST
I still have Aztec Gold blooms on 2 of my cuttings. But the cuttings are starting to feel soft. There is more and more leaf drop on all my trees since the nights have started to cool into the 50-60's. The days however are still in the mid-80's. I will keep them outside until the nights drop closer to 40. But @tarev mentioned scaling back on watering. There is some rains predicted in Texas coming this weekend. Should I protect them from excessive rain? I have to leave town Sunday-Wed. I have to get them moved tomorrow if I am going to do it.
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tarev
Oct 23, 2015 9:30 PM CST
Cheryl, I would protect your Plumerias from the excessive rains, especially the ones coming your way, those rains are mixed remnants of a hurricane. It would have more rain volume.
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Oct 24, 2015 6:47 AM CST
I agree with Tarev, plumerias don't like wet feet. Wet soil and cold nights is not a great combination. When my temps goes below 50's I stop watering my plumerias and let them proceed to dormancy. If there is still a leaf or two, I mist the stem and the topsoil just a little bit and let the soil thoroughly dry before misting again. (Lifting the pot is the best indication, if soil is dry the pots are light.)

Also I would watch closely the cuttings that are getting soft and keep them on the dry side. My well rooted cuttings (with blooms) don't get soft at all.
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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Oct 24, 2015 9:01 AM CST
Thanks, @gigiplumeria. We are safely predicted to be in to the mid 60's at night, mid 70's in the day until the week of Thanksgiving. It sounds like glorious weather to me. I think my trees will be OK for some warmth and light watering this late in the season. I do see some leaf drop and no signs of inflo. But like I said, the Aztec Gold and the Bridal Bouquet Pudica keep giving and giving! My orange NOID would have been included in that list of fall blooms had the stem not cracked off. Of these clouds would move over and let the sun come out, they might be even more showy. Maybe after this storm...

The 2 cuttings I am having to worry over are the ones I originally planted in 1--% perlite. They were bare-rooted when transplanted and many of the roots broke off even though I was as gentle as I could be. The big leaves are droopy. I am keeping them in sunlight (when it is here) and dry.

@tarev I am not too worried about the hurricane rains. Yes the state is getting dumped on. And we need it to lift the burn bans and stop the wildfires. But our area is not getting it as bad as those to the west and north of us. Oh, we'll have rain alright. But I don't think they will be the torrential-type. But for safety of my Plumies, I will move the smaller ones into the greenhouse and the larger ones will be rolled under the breezeway. I think they will fit? I have some work to do between rain drops. Signing off.....
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tarev
Oct 25, 2015 11:25 AM CST
Cheryl, typically I would not mind either if the Plumies get some rains, they do like it but it is already Fall, light levels are shorter, and overnights cooler, and your plants are exhibiting it is going onto dormancy phase. A few couple of hours drizzle and then dry the rest of the day is okay, but more than that, just might promote faster rotting on the young ones. Anyways, good luck on your plants, hope they are somewhere sheltered today. Smiling


Name: Thea
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cherryb1ossoms
Oct 25, 2015 5:40 PM CST
Exciting @GiGi Hurray! I hope my will bloom beautifully like your red ones as well. Lovely pictures! Thanks Lucky! Welcome! Cheryl!

@tarev- thank you for the advices/suggestions. You are awesome! One or two of my pulmeria plant, their leave (1-2) in the bunch are turning yellow. Is that normal?
Name: tarev
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tarev
Oct 25, 2015 8:28 PM CST
Hello Thea! Yes, that is quite normal now, it is Fall, they are preparing to go dormant. Just let it dry out and fall off. Eventually all leaves will drop. I would suggest no watering now for your plant, just let it rest.

We got a good warm run this October, which was very nice indeed for all our plumies..but, nap time is coming up for them. Smiling

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DavidLMO
Oct 25, 2015 10:18 PM CST
GigiPlumeria said: A new seedling is ready to open any day now.


Ignorant question - still learning about Plumeria. When you folks use the term "seedling" are you specifically referring to a plant that you grew from seed (That is the way I am familiar with the term.)? As differentiated from growing a cutting?

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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Oct 25, 2015 10:32 PM CST
tarev said: I would suggest no watering now for your plant, just let it rest.


Still learning. No watering at all til next Spring?
Last year I got my plumeria in late August and it was a rooting cutting with about 7 leaves. They all fell off in a matter of days after I got it and the vendor said not to worry - travel shock and getting ready for dormancy anyway. I stored in my basement under lights (~ 60 degrees and 12 hours of lights). I gave it a very small drink every 3 weeks or so. It stayed nice and firm and after I put it outside after Mothers Day, it leafed out in a couple of weeks.

Did I do wrong? It seemed to work. This is what I plan to do this year as well.

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tarev
Oct 25, 2015 10:53 PM CST
Hi David, I do not provide any artificial lighting on my plumies once indoors, they just get whatever that comes through our south facing window, so for sure not getting 12 hours of light. I gave an earlier plumie cutting water once before seeing the tip seems moist and awake in January and it quickly got a blackened tip, which later on killed my cutting, so I have avoided giving the other attempts I made any water once dormant. So from them on, no water anymore during the cold months. It was later on that I understood got to see the new leaves form nicely first before watering it.

Maybe it is okay with your set-up since you are giving them better lighting conditions than I do. I would not call your procedure wrong. If it works that way in your set-up go for it. Maybe just make sure your temps are above 60 and there are some leaves that will benefit from it. Otherwise, when it is dormant and totally no leaves, it does not need water.
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Oct 26, 2015 12:23 AM CST
David yes, seedlings are the plumerias I grew from seeds. I have a gazillions of them Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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