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sassafrass
Aug 11, 2011 12:07 PM CST
Just curious if anyone plants any beans or peas for a fall crop or something else perhaps? With this year being one of the worst for things growing (except weeds) my family has given this a shot. According to directions it says the plants should be ok if given a couple months before the first frost. We are also putting up stakes so that the rows can be covered when the temps do start to dip down.
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rebloomnut
Aug 11, 2011 5:14 PM CST
Wow when is your first frost? Ours can be anywhere from Sept 1 to Oct. 15.
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sassafrass
Aug 11, 2011 6:03 PM CST
normally around the first couple weeks in Oct. so it should be around the same time for picking... should be. but Lord only knows with as goofy as its been. I figured at this point I really didnt have anything to lose by trying it.
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Christine27360
Aug 15, 2011 8:03 PM CST
hmmmmmmmm do you mean like for farming or for eating??? Cause I have heard of early peas but not sure if I have heard of late peas...
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sassafrass
Aug 15, 2011 8:35 PM CST
for eating. I planted ones that are an earlier variety.. they only take around 55 days. Beans the same. From talking to different people around here, it can be done... so we shall see, no harm in trying.
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Christine27360
Aug 15, 2011 8:45 PM CST
Well that is so cool -- you have to let us know how it goes!!

I am not a "food gardener" so I have no good knowledge -- but I cant wait to hear if this works!!
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Onewish1
Aug 16, 2011 4:48 AM CST
going to be watching for your results!
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gardengus
Aug 16, 2011 5:46 AM CST
The reason peas are planted early is because they prefer cool to germinate .I would think they may have a bad germination rate trying to start them now. However with beans if they have time to mature they should do fine.
Sad No beans here this year, just too busy , but I have succession planted them before , just can not remember how late into the season??
If you are getting close to picking and it turns cold try row crop covers , they do extend the season and keep things warmer for a while.
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sassafrass
Aug 16, 2011 9:32 AM CST
germination rate is pretty good.. but we are experiencing cooler temps too. this morning at 8 it was 65 degrees.. now at close to 10:30 am its barely hitting 70. all of the plants are looking better.
according to what I've read about the beans & peas, they should be ok as long as there is a couple months before your first frost...so around 60 days (for an early variety.) I'm really really cutting it close to the wire.
Thanks for the assurance of the row covers, I know I will more than likely have to utilize them.
either way I'll keep everyone posted.
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bsavage
Aug 22, 2011 5:45 PM CST
Watching with interest! Good luck!
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saanansandy
Aug 31, 2011 10:06 AM CST
Can't wait to see how your peas turn out! I planted turnip, beets, swiss chard and a thumb-size carrot about three weeks ago. Unfortunetly 5 days after I planted we got over 6 inches of rain in 12 hours! Alot of the garden washed. No sign of carrots (no surprise!) but most of the turnip and beets came up ; and a handful of swiss chard.
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JaeRae
Sep 15, 2011 5:21 PM CST
Aside from a few tommy-toes, basil and various peppers, I only do perennials so I will wait to see your results. The farm market here is still going strong, I just went yesterday and have more veggies than I can eat! Must be time for soup.
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MaryE
Sep 16, 2011 6:24 AM CST
Sassafrass, how are the late planted crops doing? One year I planted some peas in late July where I had grown my early peas. The vines had been pulled out but I left the grass clipping mulch in place to keep that strip of cooler soil cool for them. They yielded a few tasty snacks before the frost came, but would have done better if they'd been germinated before I planted them, and if I had done it as soon as the old plants started to die. It was fun to try and I should have remembered to do it again this year. Way too late now.
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sassafrass
Sep 18, 2011 8:22 PM CST
they did come up... peas plants were here & there & everywhere.. seems I had some helpers scattering seeds
beans also came up real well .. all the plants were looking good & starting to bloom. had some issues come up though that prevented me from covering from the frost (we were away) so of course it all bit the dust.
Its ok... It was worth a shot & I'm definitely trying it again next year & if something should come up I guess we will have to cover it ahead of time.
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JaeRae
Sep 18, 2011 9:35 PM CST
I'm working hardily on perennial planting for next year. I've been out prepping ground for a wonderful shipment of plants from Santa Rosa. They had a terrific sale and I overloaded on various types of Gaillardia, Cardinal flower, and Coreopsis. What a well put together shipment! I'm very pleased.

I wanted to get them in today and worked on it yesterday and today some but it started raining early afternoon and that is expected to continue into mid-day tomorrow. That's okay because it has been so dry that I watered almost all day yesterday while getting compost ready and prepping ground, just to get the spade in there and turn it. I did some and by this morning the ground was drying out again. I am just hoping we get another month or so of warm weather and sun so that they can establish for next year.

I am also still expecting about 260 spring and summer bulbs and some daylilies. They should arrive this coming week. I hope the ground stays softened, my paws already ache!
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sassafrass
Sep 19, 2011 11:51 AM CST
oh my Jamie... I do feel for you. It is very dry here too. Really the only things I have yet to plant are the iris's I just ordered & moving the Asiatic lilies around & maybe some of the dayliles, so I'm with ya on the nice weather sticking around for a bit.
Make sure you give those paws some deserved rest.
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JaeRae
Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST
Ah! but SO worth it when the next season comes! (and even the therapy of looking forward when the snow blower assaults me with shoulder pain and ice cold snow in the dull chaffing winds of winter).
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Christine27360
Sep 28, 2011 8:40 AM CST
Oh my goodness -- you have 260 bulbs to put in??? WOW~~~ You are super green thumb gal!! Thumbs up Thumbs up
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bsavage
Sep 28, 2011 9:00 AM CST
Wow, Jamie, that is a lot of bulbs! It will be stunning in the spring... can't wait to see pictures! Our ground is so dang hard here (and full of rocks) that I've about given up on adding more bulbs.
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CherieCoogan
Sep 28, 2011 11:05 AM CST
I;ve got a lousy 14 bulbs coming in..................THIS year. Next fall may be a different story. Have to see how far I get planting up the new bed. I get all the perennials and shrubs in and then fill in with the spring bulbs.

The 14 bulbs I have coming in are Oriental/Trumpet bulbs. They're all mixed so won't know what color what is when I plant but that is okay. It will be a mixture of color.................

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