Post a reply

Image
Oct 31, 2015 11:26 PM CST
Thread OP
Oahu, Hawaii
12 months young when she arrived...now pulled her pants down after 3 months to show some legs

her arrival 8.4.15
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/9f3b44

and now
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/dcb900
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/d8cb00
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/908075
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/6ba98c
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/d8749d
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/5f6b02
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/513c97
Thumb of 2015-11-01/jericson22/ea4094
Avatar for Dutchlady1
Nov 1, 2015 4:17 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
A beauty!! Thumbs up
Image
Nov 2, 2015 12:40 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Give PEACE a chance!
Adeniums Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: California Houseplants Plays in the sandbox
Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder
Good growing! Love the wide caudex! Lovey dubby
Image
Nov 2, 2015 4:50 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I love the "strange-beauty" of the Adenium. I have 18 growing from seed, but they are only five months old. I hope just one of mine looks a bit like that when it turns a year old. Is there a way to "encourage" this sort of root/caudex growth, or is it simply hit-and-miss?
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 23, 2015 1:40 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
I had posted something here regards the use of certain descriptive language that I felt was offensive to me. I have deleted it since one person was not concerned about the language used in this website.
Last edited by Rainbow Nov 24, 2015 3:06 AM Icon for preview
Image
Nov 23, 2015 5:39 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
With the filth I see on TV, in the movies, and in song lyrics, that phrase is the least of my concern. Each to their own.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 3:06 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
À chacun son goût! C'est la vie!
Image
Nov 24, 2015 9:56 AM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
Adeniums Seed Starter Plumerias Peonies Native Plants and Wildflowers Hibiscus
Dog Lover Container Gardener Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Brugmansias Tropicals
Ken,
These are Arabicums, TSoco hybrids, etc. This form can be accomplished, but the tree would have to have the genetic make up first. The ability to grow at optimal conditions all year long would assist getting it to this size in time listed. Many of us are not that fortunate to have these conditions continuously.
It can be done, just need the time and more so, patience.
Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Image
Nov 24, 2015 10:07 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I have the patience........don't know about the time. Age, you know. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 10:49 AM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
Adeniums Seed Starter Plumerias Peonies Native Plants and Wildflowers Hibiscus
Dog Lover Container Gardener Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Brugmansias Tropicals
Get you there, Ken. I think that I have the patience, but that is why I got a couple of these trees. So that I could enjoy having something more established and have the juveniles coming up behind. When I take in my growing time (natural, no artificial lighting) which is approx. 6-7 mths. with 4 mths. being the optimal light and temperatures. The trees have a slowing down going into the fall and then lost time with the recovery in the spring. This reduces the overall growing considerably compared to the Thai or anyone else growing them in a tropical climate (10-12 mths.)
I have known all of this going into growing these and it's not going to change.

I love growing these and others Genus from seed. The challenge and watching them grow and develop is very rewarding.

These are few of my larger trees.


Thumb of 2015-11-24/RCanada/2ea5fa


Thumb of 2015-11-24/RCanada/b8c804


Thumb of 2015-11-24/RCanada/ca7455

Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Last edited by RCanada Nov 24, 2015 10:57 AM Icon for preview
Image
Nov 24, 2015 11:02 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
So they are actually trees, huh?

Mine are all about 6 mo. old now and only have single "trunks". They seem happy and are growing larger by the week and have nice, dark-green leaves. They are all now in the solarium so that they can get special care and (perhaps) more frequent watering.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 11:37 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Give PEACE a chance!
Adeniums Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: California Houseplants Plays in the sandbox
Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder
I would adjust and lessen a bit the winter watering Ken, even if you have it in a solarium. But the younger ones does need to be kept moist, but not too frequent water. The roots below soil level can further fatten up so it does not help watering them too much, they might rot.

One time I decided I want to know what the roots look like below on one of my younger Adeniums. It was dormant at that time anyways, so I dug it up to look..roots look like ginger, so it does tell me, be careful in watering.

Thumb of 2015-11-24/tarev/eda219
Image
Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
My roots don't seem to be enlarged, at least so far. I will lessen the watering though. I was watering about every week, when the soil looked really dry. The majority of mine are in clay pots and they dry out way faster than those grown in plastic.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 4:29 PM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
Adeniums Seed Starter Plumerias Peonies Native Plants and Wildflowers Hibiscus
Dog Lover Container Gardener Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Brugmansias Tropicals
Hi Ken,
I had always referred to the Adeniums as plants, but since corresponding with people from different parts of the world. They all refer to the Adeniums and Plumeria as trees, so as a matter of using the correct wording for them. I thought I would make a practice to use the word 'Tree' instead.

I cut back on watering when I bring them in, but I gauge it much in the same way that I do in the summer. If they are kept inside and receiving full sun, especially the South and East sunlight for most of the day. They will slowly require less water. They can stay in leaf all winter in these conditions and if they do, all the better. The obesum's do not necessarily have an obligate dormancy period as many other species do. I prefer to keep young seedling going throughout their first winter and not let go dormant.
It is a fine line. If you over water with cold temps., then you could get rot. If you underwater, this can also promote dormancy.
Not to make it confusing, but you have been growing many plants and can understand things such as this.
Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Image
Nov 24, 2015 5:22 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Yep. Plumeria are truly trees, getting anywhere from 20' to 60' tall, depending on variety. There are now dwarfs available, but I suspect even those will get over 6' (just a guess). All my Adeniums are in the solarium and get some hours of sun. Right now they get about 6 hrs. The glass reduces the infra-red by 50% and practically eliminates the UV, so it is more like growing in a shade-house.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 5:43 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
drdawg said: All my Adeniums are in the solarium and get some hours of sun. Right now they get about 6 hrs. The glass reduces the infra-red by 50% and practically eliminates the UV, so it is more like growing in a shade-house.


Sounds good, Ken. I have noticed that my adeniums like some shade from the sun. The ones growing under fronds of coconut leaves appear healthier than others in full glaring sun.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 6:57 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Give PEACE a chance!
Adeniums Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: California Houseplants Plays in the sandbox
Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder
I think if the bark of the Adenium is still not thick enough/hardened enough it may suffer from too much direct sun. But once it is, it can take all the sun and heat happily as it does here during our very long dry months. And our summer heat here is the dry, furnace type with dismal humidity too. In late fall to winter it is different, it really craves for that sun but then temps are getting cooler. Eventually, it just rests and waits for the return of better conditions, unless you really provide them the temperature it prefers at the height of winter..expensive heating cost I would imagine, but for me cheaper to let it rest.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 9:03 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I guess, Tarev, since our new space is climate controlled and the glass is so amazing, we would spend exactly the same amount in heating/cooling, whether we had plants or not. It just so happens that what is comfortable for us is comfortable for my tropical plants. I guess that's a win-win. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
Image
Nov 24, 2015 9:52 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Give PEACE a chance!
Adeniums Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: California Houseplants Plays in the sandbox
Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder
Good for you, Ken! As long as you can foot the bill, that's well and good. Anyways, it is part of your plant business, so you really got to keep your plant inventory in good condition. Smiling
Image
Nov 25, 2015 7:33 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The solarium is just a part of the house, Tarev. Bringing in the outdoors is simply a bonus. I have never really grown plants indoors (other than on a winterized, screen porch) so everything I do is "experimental" at this point.

Here are some of my Adeniums grown from seed. The seeds were planted July 5, 2015. I have one plant that is at least twice as large as all the rest, but I don't know why (second picture, middle plant). As you can see, I don't have any of that wonderful caudex or root formation yet, just a single, fat trunk.

Thumb of 2015-11-25/drdawg/d2c2c2 Thumb of 2015-11-25/drdawg/18cf48
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.

You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.
Member Login:

( No account? Join now! )

Today's site banner is by Newyorkrita and is called "Siberian Iris China Spring "

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.