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Nov 22, 2015 8:17 PM CST
Name: Hank Z
WNY state (Zone 6a)
Hello Della, Been a long time since I've been at the site. This has just been a crazy busy year for me. I will post more info and pix in a separate message thread once I get settled in for the winter. I am pleased that you posted a pic of the seedling and hope that you have a few more growing. I hope that some of the seedlings will show the nice brushmarks and clear colors of the pollen parent. Napa Valley was used to hopefully increase the bud count. I did not get to plant any of the seeds from that particular cross, so it is good to see the resulting seedlings. Following are pix of Napa Valley and of pollen parent 11-187 (MyJoAnne x 1a sdlg nice pink white bi-color bsmk).

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I hope you get some seeds from your cernuum crosses as they can be interesting and nice. And Rick is correct as to neglect being the right way to take care of cernuum (and pumilum) and some of the resulting seedlings. Pic of pumilum seedlings in a 1 gallon pot neglected in the garden for over 5 years.

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Hank Z
WNY
Hank Z
WNY near the Falls
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Nov 22, 2015 10:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Hi Hank! Thanks for dropping in. It's good you can see your babies. I think it must be the hardest thing about donating seed - you might never get to see them!

I like those pumilum babies. They don't seem at all to be suffering from 'neglect'. If that's what a lily likes I think I can manage to dish out quite a bit of it! Hilarious!

Rick, thanks for posting the tree. I'm glad to see that pumilum and cernuum are so close because I was thinking of the possibilty that " cernuum album" is really a pumilum form. But then also my two-year old freezer pollen could be suss!

The background of your seeds is interesting, Hank. They're both lovely flowers (why I picked the seed lot!) I would never have guessed 'My Joanne' was in the gene line. Another one opened today, looking a bit rough with misbehaving petals:

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Funny how one is chubby like dad but has mum's spotting and the other is slim like mum but has some of dad's colouring. There's almost a brushmark in the first seedling... if you look real close!

One more from the cross to flower this year too.

Leftwood said:
Lovely pics. Did you seat the Napa Valley cross in the chair for the photo op?
A wise move, since it visually masks the fence behind.


I'm glad you like the pics. I tried to get a good pic of the 'posing chair' for you, but it was bright and windy out there. This was the best I could do in a cloudy minute:

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It's a 'seedling bed'! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 22, 2015 10:17 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing ...(snort)


(And that really happened!!!)
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Nov 24, 2015 5:40 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
A Brian Bergman seedling has opened; Peach Butterflies x Burnt Pumpkin:

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...and not the least bit orange!
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Nov 25, 2015 8:10 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Well, driving icy wind and hail has encouraged me to post a few pics from several days ago.

Tiny Padhye and Fireking are still with me but really not happy with being in the same exhausted potting mix - time to do something nice for them!


The seedling bloom from last week faded in the strong sun but held condition really well:
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And some buds...
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A seedling from a 'Tiny' series cross and L. amabile var. luteum (from seed) ...looking very un-luteum. Oh well. Rolling my eyes.
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Nov 25, 2015 8:26 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
That 'seedling bloom' is beautiful, Della!

Tomorrow I will take some pictures to post here, but none of mine can compete with your 'seedling' - all are commercial Liliums.
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Nov 25, 2015 8:34 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Thanks Ursula. Smiling

I was wondering what lilies might be in flower around your place now! I don't know what your conditions are like, but after weeks of summery weather here we are having snow, ice and hail around southern Tasmania. I went out to pot up some of your lovely potentilla seedlings and came back in with my fingers burning from the cold! Blinking
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Nov 25, 2015 9:28 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Della, Itoday I have 1 Tiny Padhye and several ... NOIDS Sticking tongue out blooming.

I happen to have more Matrix planters than I thought Green Grin! 3 in total, different sizes.

Unfortunately, many Tiny Padhye died from last year's heat/draught and the surviving ones have only a few buds per stem. I lost several pots of asiatic hybrids (total loss) and in some pots, where there used to be 4 adult bulbs, only one survived.

So far, we have had a lovely Spring - maxium temperatures have been around 24 - 26°C, but that should change drastically next week. Late Oct. we had 2 days with 30°C

Della, it would be interesting if you could post a picture of your Potentilla seedlings in the PDB. I agree they are cute! My plants bloomed like mad this year, but I did not take many pictures. Would you believe these are last year's seedlings still in their tiny bags (half the size of a soda can)? - I have terribly neglected my garden this spring.

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Nov 25, 2015 10:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
They're beautiful! I'll have to take pics - just leaves at the moment but I love the leaves! It's good to know they will survive and flower even in tiny pots... because sometimes it takes me a year or two to plant things out!!

NOIDS or not NOIDS, if your lilies have survived drought and flowered, them they're good lilies. Smiling
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Nov 27, 2015 8:10 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
OK, here are the blooming Liliums (all commercial asiatic hybrids ) I had not shown before.

Please overlook the weeds - when it was time to pull them I was spending my time with Rory.

Tiny yellow L.a. hybrid with dots:

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Tiny Padhye (the only one I was able to identify):

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This one is really dwarf (the stems are app. 10 to 12 cm tall. There is a very slight blush of orange near the center of the flower. This is a planter with bulbs produced from scales I allowed to bloom for the first time (last year I cut the single flower buds):

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The buds of this flower (unfortunately I took no picture) looked like siamese twins joined at the base. Today it opened and looks like this:

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No way to capture the real colour of this Lilium: it is realy dark, the darkest I have seen so far, but the camera sees something different:

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This one has tall stems for L.a. hybrids. The pictures correspond to planters with Liliums obtained from scales (one of these planters had the surprise Alstroemeria pulchra bonus):

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Nov 27, 2015 8:46 PM CST
central Illinois
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Nice ones Ursula, and here's hoping your Saturday is very special!
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Nov 27, 2015 8:51 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thanks, Jack! Group hug
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Nov 27, 2015 9:48 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Really a pretty yellow. That Siamese twin is called a fused bud. Certain red colors are so hard to capture---I get frustrated too. Looks like you had good luck with the scales. LA's generally produce lots of scale bulblets.
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Nov 27, 2015 9:59 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Lorn, the large stemmed yellow L.a. were purchased in a pack of 5 bulbs - 3 were orange and 2 were yellow (or vice-versa - too long ago to remember) and I took scales before planting them. I had a total of 5 planters from the resulting little bulbs and only 2 or 3 liliums (over 10 per planter) are orange. And guess what: that's the planter I gave away ...... so now I have 4 planters full of yellow Liliums Green Grin! Anyway, I still have the parent bulbs.

Is it just my idea or are yellow flowered plants (in general) better 'equipped' to survive?
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Nov 27, 2015 11:16 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
In general, only the strong survive, along with those that are most adaptable. Color has no bearing that I know of. Smiling
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Nov 28, 2015 3:44 AM CST
Sweden
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Very nice, Ursula! Strong colors that radiates happiness all the way up to the grey darkness up here Smiling .

I didn't notice any weeds, only some strategically placed plants to help shade the lily roots, but I do hope the blooms will help to ease some of the pain you must be feeling Group hug
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Nov 28, 2015 10:05 AM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thanks, William Smiling Yes, the flowers remind me that the circle of life continues: some step out, others step in.
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Nov 28, 2015 1:39 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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So true, though those that step out, remain in our hearts and minds and are never forgotten.
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Nov 28, 2015 6:25 PM CST
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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Nice post, Ursula!

The first day official day of summer here and the lilies seem to know it. I should have lots of pics to post once I sort out my technology - my computer expired with thousands of photos on it... and I of course had no back up for 99% of them. Rolling my eyes. So....

EDIT: wait - it's only Sunday the 29th!! I seem to be lost O.o
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Nov 28, 2015 6:57 PM CST
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Della, have your computer checked by an expert - when my old computer died beyond repair, a guy was able to save all the pictures I had stored. I hope this is your case as well.

BTW, today we had 30°C and expect up to 34 next week.

These are some Lilies that opened today (all L.a. NOID hybrids):

I store the pictures of this Lily as 'intense brick colour'

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I used to think this is the same as the previous, but today I noticed this one has tiny dots the other lacks:

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This is a tiny L.a. and the picture reflects it's real colour.

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This is a bonus (a baby bulb was in the soil of a Peony I purchased) and has the most intense orange colour:

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Tiny Lilium:

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