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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Aug 15, 2011 1:18 AM CST

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This one was mixed in with some S. 'Plum Rose' I received. When young it looked just like 'Plum Rose'. As it matured the color started to vary from the rest and it developed an unusual center. It remains sort of closed, looking like a tiny head of cabbage. It has one offset that is larger than the rest and that offset has the same strange center.

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 15, 2011 8:49 AM CST

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Can you post a photo of Plum Rose beside the above semp Chris. That really is interesting. I wonder if it could be a sport?
Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Aug 15, 2011 9:39 AM CST

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Sure, I'll try to do that after work today. I wonder if all the offsets from that one will have the odd center?
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM CST

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Will be interesting to follow it through the next year of growth. : )
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AlwaysWeeding
Aug 15, 2011 12:51 PM CST
Very colorful and pretty either way.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 16, 2011 1:34 AM CST

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Thanks CJ. You probably have a bunch of semps by now too, don't you? I'd love to see some pictures.
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picklepuff
Aug 16, 2011 8:33 AM CST
Hey there Chris. I have a 'Rose Queen' with a cabbage like center, too. I can't remember if I traded one with you early this year. Blinking
Sorry, I don't "pretty up" my plants for photos. They are in large mulched beds with other perennials. *Blush*

8-16-11 S. Rose Queen

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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST

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Boy Sandi, that sure does look like the same plant! I'm pretty sure I ordered Rose Queen too, but I'll have to do some more checking. Maybe this one got stuck in the wrong bag. But I don't remember having any other ones looking like this. Time to investigate!
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Name: Charleen
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Ridesredmule
Aug 16, 2011 8:58 AM CST
it is a beautiful plant Chris...
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2011 10:44 AM CST

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Here is a link to Rose Queen on Horst Dheim's site. http://www.semperhorst.de/Diehmor%20R/Diehmor%20R.htm
You can tell these photos are showing plants that are not being stressed by their growing conditions. But still show the same basic form. I think both of you are in growing conditions right now that somewhat stress the plants so they hold those inner petals close the protect the rosette from heat and drought. Will be interesting to see how they do when the weather becomes more moderate.
Would both of you post your photos to the database so we can keep a watch on them to see how the morph? Smiling
http://cubits.org/sedumandsempervivum/db/sedumandsempervivum...
Chris I noticed that you posted a photo of it in June.
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dahtzu
Aug 16, 2011 8:20 PM CST
Well, time for my vote ( .2 worth) What ever it is, keep it! NO Wait, don't keep it, send it to me. hehehe. Lovey dubby
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2011 8:32 PM CST

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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Next spring is not far off Faye. : )
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 16, 2011 8:39 PM CST

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Sandi thank you for adding the photo of S. 'Rose Queen' to the database. If you can take more photos as it changes in appearance that would be great to see.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 17, 2011 3:34 AM CST

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Faye, mine has a bunch of chicks, so remind me in the spring that you would like one!

Lynn, I'll make a note and add it to the database when I can make some time. Thanks for the link. I'm sure mine is stressed right now with the wacky weather.

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dahtzu
Aug 18, 2011 3:31 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Thank you Chris, I'll just add your name to the "Semp. people list", Sticking tongue out If I see them, I want them.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 18, 2011 4:27 PM CST

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To see them is to love them. Faye has found that out. Whistling
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 19, 2011 12:57 AM CST

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Hurray! Hurray! Yup, it's all over now Faye. You've definitely come over to the semp addict side!
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 22, 2011 2:03 AM CST

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Finally! Here is a picture of 'Plum Rose' next to the original picture in this thread.

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 22, 2011 9:19 AM CST

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Well that really is weird Chris. Even the offsets are different from one rosette the the other.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Aug 22, 2011 10:03 AM CST

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I think they just stuck a mistake with the other two. That's OK, I'll just move it - I like it anyway. Smiling
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