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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2015 10:42 AM CST
Can anyone identify this plant? It is growing in southeast Texas in full sun, sandy soil and blooms all summer. It is still blooming now. It has a round, woody stem, grows to 5' tall or more. The leaves are slightly fuzzy, serrated and alternate. The flowers have a sweet smell and attract bees and butterflies, the leaves have no scent. Normally the flowers have 5 petals but some have 6 or 7. It reseeds generously and is annual here.



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cliftoncat
Nov 16, 2015 10:57 AM CST
Could it be tickseed sunflower (bidens aristosa)? Very pretty, whatever it is!
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Deebie
Nov 16, 2015 11:01 AM CST
Just a wild guess, but could it be Bidens, beggar tick of some sort? Smooth Beggartick (Bidens laevis)
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2015 2:20 PM CST
Thanks, both. The blooms look very similar, but my plant has much wider leaves. It is my favorite weed. I probably should try to get clearer pictures.
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jmorth
Nov 16, 2015 2:36 PM CST
Bur Marigold (Bidens aristosa) ?
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2015 2:59 PM CST
The blooms do resemble several of the Bidens species, but the leaves are broader and have serrated borders.
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Name: Sandi
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Bubbles
Nov 16, 2015 4:35 PM CST
Cow Pen Daisies?
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2015 6:00 PM CST
Wow! Now the leaves and the growth pattern look right in some of the images, but the blooms have too many rays.
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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Nov 16, 2015 7:55 PM CST
Looks like it could be a variety of Helianthus.

Maybe Small headed Sunflower, Helianthus microcephalus, although its not actually shown in Tx, it is right next door in LA.
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=HEMI3
http://uswildflowers.com/detail.php?SName=Helianthus%20micro...
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Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Moonhowl
Nov 16, 2015 8:20 PM CST
Maybe Lindheimera texana? It has larger leaves, varying number of petals and grows in Texas.

http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/species.php?id_plant=LITE3
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2015 10:26 PM CST
Jean, that is the best yet. I will get some more pictures tomorrow. The foliage is slightly different, but anything grown from a seed can be a mutt.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 17, 2015 8:02 AM CST
Oh, Hurray! try to get some photos of the seeds. If it is the Lindheimera texana the seeds look interesting and there are no seed photos in our database.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 17, 2015 8:23 AM CST
Okay. Thanks everybody. Better pictures coming as soon as the weather improves
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Nov 17, 2015 9:59 AM CST
Lindheimera texana flower sure does look like a close match but, usually the plants only grow up to 24" tall.

I was thinking sunflower since you said your plant can grow to five feet tall.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 17, 2015 11:20 AM CST
Yes, I remember considering the Lindheimera texana previously and rejected it as a match. My plant normally reaches 4' in poor conditions, and given a little water can exceed 6'. It also has a rather tangled, shrubby growth habit. Sunflowers seem to have too many petals and a tidier center than mine. I still don't think we have an exact match, but it is getting close! If the wind and rain move out, I will try for more revealing pictures - including of the seeds.
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Here is another old picture of the bloom which also makes the form of the leaves easier to see.
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Nov 17, 2015 12:02 PM CST
Hmmm - for some reason the name Bidens comes to mind...
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 17, 2015 12:28 PM CST
We've been there; the leaves are quite different from any Bidens images I find. Could it be some sort of cross-bred?
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Nov 17, 2015 5:31 PM CST
This link states that the L texana gets 4 to 5 feet tall? Iam not sure if this is the right plant, but seems to match. Confused

http://www.catnapin.com/WildFlowers/Flowers-Y/yoDaisyFew5.ht...
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 17, 2015 5:40 PM CST
The leaves on L texana are narrower than my plant's and the bloom is slightly different ( my flower petals lack that "tacked on" look) so the height is not the only obstacle. I hate to be a nuisance, but I don't think the mystery is solved.
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Nov 18, 2015 7:36 AM CST
How about Sunflower Goldeneye, Viguiera dentata
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=VIDE3
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