Irises forum: Can someone help me with acronym PBF ?.

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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
Nov 22, 2015 5:07 AM CST
Please can someone explain to me the acronym PBF. I love irises, have some old cultivars with their names lost in time, I'm trying to identify these however I stumble with with/without PBF... ( Shrug! ?). I belong to the uncouth irisarians willing to learn... Arturo
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Nov 22, 2015 5:19 AM CST
Hi Arturo, good to see you on the iris thread. It's not nice of us to use these abbreviations without an explanation. But we get too lazy to type out all the words. I think Texting is making things worse! Hilarious! PBF stands for Purple Based Foliage. Some irises have purple coloring at the base of the leaves. Some have a lot, others have a small amount, and still others have none at all. Some have purple that shows on the stems of the bloom stalks and some have purple on the bloom spathe.
I don't have a good picture of PBF, but here's a picture of a purple spathe on the iris Dialect. You can see a tiny bit of PBF on one leaf though. Wish I had a better picture.
I'm sure some one will have some to add.


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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
Nov 22, 2015 8:09 AM CST
Thank you so much Tom; it took me quite some time before I ventured to ask.( I recognize I'm a fool)... however I wonder how many newcomers are faced with permanent "new dialect" deciphering in the extensive world of gardening. Perhaps a kind of permanent lexicon associated with the forum of the species could help. I strongly advise anything that can make gardening a challenge for larger numbers throughout the world...which undoubtedly helps for a much more peaceful and amicable world... a lexicon explaining properties of irises,plants and their flowers, and all the necessary acronyms used in the "trade" to facilitate comunication. If the proposal, is accepted then we could go ahead designing this lexicon. I could perhaps contribute. Thank You! Arturo
Name: Mary Ann
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Muddymitts
Nov 22, 2015 8:13 AM CST
Hi Arturo! Welcome! to the Iris forum -- glad you joined us! Smiling
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
Nov 22, 2015 8:14 AM CST
Hello Tarak, and welcome to the irises forum. That was a great question too. When I was very young I was given an iris that was marked white unk. I looked for that name for a long time before someone told me that unk stood for unknown. So, by today's terminology I was looking for a NoID or a No Identification iris. LOL I had to laugh at the time I had wasted looking for white unk.
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Nov 22, 2015 10:05 AM CST
Hi, Arturo. Smiling More views of purple-based foliage.
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Nov 22, 2015 10:06 AM CST
Too funny Bonnie! Hilarious!

Arturo, this link from Winterberry Gardens is a very nice place to start with many of the terms and abbreviations. It's pretty thorough.
http://www.winterberryirises.com/iris_descriptions

Hope you find it helpful. Smiling

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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Irises Keeps Horses Region: Kentucky Farmer Container Gardener Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Muddymitts
Nov 22, 2015 10:27 AM CST
Bonnie -- Hilarious!

Deb -- those are some mighty fine looking rhizomes!! Lovey dubby
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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lovemyhouse
Nov 22, 2015 3:29 PM CST
Mary Ann, those are Before and After photographs of NOID yellow rhizomes I sent to Arlyn a couple of years back. He is helping me identify them. Smiling Couldn't bring myself to discard any and I knew he had some room, so... Sticking tongue out
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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
Nov 22, 2015 4:49 PM CST
Thank you all. I discovered that some of my multiple Noids irises are PBF! Now that is a major achievement! Big Grin Hurray! Thank You! Thank You! Arturo P.S Tom your link was particularly useful Thank you for your trouble!
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Nov 22, 2015 6:24 PM CST
No trouble at all, we're here to enable! Rolling on the floor laughing
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iciris
Nov 22, 2015 6:29 PM CST
[quote="hampartsum"]it took me quite some time before I ventured to ask.
Welcome! Arturo,
I think there has been a lot of us that have followed this forum before we joined in. Glad to have you here and Welcome! again!
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Nov 22, 2015 8:19 PM CST
Welcome! !! here's a link to a short article about PBF, and, if you look around the site, there are many useful articles on both culture, and the ID process. http://www.historiciris.org/articles/id-groundwork-pbf.html
South central PA (Zone 6a)
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DaveinPA
Nov 22, 2015 9:02 PM CST
Welcome Arturo. Enjoy the group. Most don't have a keyboard to give some special characters or accents-like ñ, so please excuse any "errors" in our posts.
Arlyn, the NOid Jake you sent me shows PBF! Several others do this late in season also.
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Nov 23, 2015 9:23 AM CST
I'll have to take the shovel out, and check mine !! So far, I've never seen any, here . Even on the 'supposed to REALLY be ,Jake"! I fell WAY behind on my PBF "observations', this year *Blush* , I was trying for "weekly" checks.......and ended up with "monthly" (almost) Sticking tongue out
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Nov 24, 2015 6:18 AM CST
Welcome! Arturo

I am glad you asked that question because I didn't know what it meant either.

Now with daylilies we use the term red socks to indicate foilage at the base has some red coloring to it.
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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Hostas Hummingbirder Daylilies Birds
Irises Keeps Horses Region: Kentucky Farmer Container Gardener Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Muddymitts
Nov 24, 2015 7:57 AM CST
And now I'VE learned something new -- thank you Cindy!!! These forums are great for an ongoing education!! Thumbs up
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Nov 24, 2015 8:20 AM CST
You are quite welcome Mary Ann Thumbs up
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Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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creativeclover
Nov 24, 2015 6:47 PM CST
Welcome! Arturo.

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