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Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
Nov 25, 2015 12:05 PM CST
I am seriously considering hiring out my spring cleanup to a reputable yard service this year. What I would like them to do is edge all the beds (with a spade not a weedwacker), initial weeding, and spreading compost/mulch. I thought what might be useful would be to mark all the perennials that may or may not be emerging when they come in to work. My thought was to stick in simple markers (popcycle sticks) with the name of plant, and perhaps even paint a ring around the areas they should just leave alone. I wouldn't mind doing that weeding/mulching myself. And I would plan to be on scene while the work is being done. What luck (good or bad) has anyone had with this? Here's a photo from October, and if I don't get this cleaned up this fall , this will all just sit over winter. (My goal is to clean everything up for winter, but we just took a 2 week vacation, and came back to some pretty nippy frosty weather, so...)

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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
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RickCorey
Nov 25, 2015 12:37 PM CST
>> And I would plan to be on scene while the work is being done.

A well-recommended guy who does nothing but yard work, recommended by a good-gardener-neighbor, did some basic clean-up. Among other things, before I could stop him, he laid his hands on the dead woody part of a very old Rhododendron that had died back severely and was just holding on by a thread. I had carefully cut off what I could without endangering the fragile connection between the small live part and the roots.

RRRIIIPPP

"I can clear this out for you."

After the work was over, he tried to increase the price he had quoted and gave as the reason "unexpectedly high" rates at the dump he uses every working day. I had anticipated him and checked those prices myself: flat lie.

Then he also just walked out in the middle of the job, saying nothing and leaving tools plus an open plastic bottle full of gasoline sitting IN one raised bed.

Then he didn't answer his phone for a few days. When he felt like coming back, his "explanation" was that "something came up". Then he had the amazing gall to think that I would hire him again.

Fortunately Becky overheard some of that conversation and communicated with him more clearly than I was comfortable doing. After that, he fled in considerable haste.

>> What luck (good or bad) has anyone had with this?

Not so good.

>> And I would plan to be on scene while the work is being done.

I agree Sighing!

Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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jvdubb
Nov 25, 2015 1:04 PM CST
I have not had this done. Frankly, I would have to REALLY know the person/company and trust them. I just can't imagine very many people I know that I could trust. I would have to be there to work WITH them side by side. They might not like that.

I actually was once THAT person who was trading yard work for dog training. Ripped out every bit of the dog trainers Monarda! Sad Blinking

Luckily we became friends and now it is a long standing joke. AND I get her a new kind of Monarda every year now for her birthday.

Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Nov 25, 2015 1:35 PM CST
I have thought ahead that i might need help in my garden one day like this. If i hire someone, s/he would first have to come recommended. Not only would i be there, but i would work along side him or her andpayasifi wasn't there. If they do a good enough job with me, i would do a test-job without my help but i would still oversee the job. . Then the third time would be allowing said worker to work alone. By then they would know me and what i want done. I'm not afraid of being the boss of my garden!
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love Truly, Laugh
uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you Smile.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Nov 25, 2015 1:54 PM CST
"The more help a man has in his garden,
the less it belongs to him."

- William M. Davies
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Nov 25, 2015 2:18 PM CST
When I wanted to do a large landscape job, I had no choice but to hire a landscape company, but not a "company" with a tiny crew. I knew a large back-hoe, chain-saw, one or more dump trucks, a commercial tiller, a huge hole borer, and a large crew would be necessary. I estimated that there would have to be at least 6 tons of clay dug out and hauled off. It ended up being close to 10 tons. Plus there were dozens of scrub-trees that would have to be removed. Then a couple of tons of garden soil would have to be moved in. After all that, the landscape would have to be installed. The company I hired was not only reputable but had two landscape architects running it. I knew them both and liked them. I was pleased with the work and the outcome. That was 4 years ago.

The only other time I have ever hired someone to do something is when I wanted to mulch everything, requiring 10 sq. yd. of mulch. This was summer before last. I hired a small outfit for that. Though I told the owner of the company that I wanted nothing but cypress mulch and at least 2" thick everywhere, his crew skimped on the thickness in a lot of areas. I think he/they were trying to get by with buying less mulch, even though I agreed to and paid for the 10 yd. I was disappointed. When I have to re-mulch (probably in the spring), I will do it myself, as I have always done. It will take some time and certainly some effort, but I will get what I want, and more cheaply. I say that knowing I will have back surgery in January (fusion of L4-5-S1), so I guess my plans for doing any physical labor could be altered.
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Nov 25, 2015 2:29 PM CST
>> I will have back surgery in January

Good luck!

Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Nov 25, 2015 3:05 PM CST
They say the third time is a charm. I hope it is the "second time". Sighing! Thanks, Rick.
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Nov 26, 2015 12:51 AM CST
Good luck Ken. They wanted to do mine 5 yrs ago. I refused and I just do what I can do. I have to take a lot of beaks but I just cannot see letting them cut my back right now,

Deb I agree with others of overseeing the job so you do not risk losing a plant. Every one I have hired to do some work yard work there has been something that goes wrong so I only call for help in the gardens if I am absolutely unable to do something.

One yr I had 11 trees dropped they dropped one on the patio and destroyed an $300.00 flower pot my daughter had gotten me for my birthday.

Had the swimming pool closed up. They knocked down a fence with the back hoe and then left it in my yard for two weeks. Did not move it until I called them and told them I was going to charge them storage if it stayed there another day.

Imagine looking at this for weeks.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Nov 26, 2015 7:07 AM CST
Thanks, Cinta. I feel I have little choice unless I want to live the rest of my life on narcotics. No, I take none so far. I don't even take Advil unless I know I am about to do something or have done something (digging in the garden/yard) that will cause significant pain. I have had chronic back pain for fifty years and sciatic pain for the last twenty five, so its not like I can't take pain. Perhaps it is my age, but I have grown weary of that pain. I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain with the surgery. By the way, I had back surgery in 1990 for a twice-ruptured disc, so I do have some experience in both the surgery and the expectations.

I apologize for getting off-topic.
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Elfrieda
Indian Harbour Beach, Florida (Zone 10a)
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orchidgal
Dec 25, 2015 10:53 PM CST
[quote="drdawg"] I have had chronic back pain for fifty years and sciatic pain for the last twenty five, so its not like I can't take pain. Perhaps it is my age, but I have grown weary of that pain. I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain with the surgery. By the way, I had back surgery in 1990 for a twice-ruptured disc, so I do have some experience in both the surgery and the expectations.

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I missed seeing this; -- are you getting ready for surgery soon ?
“I was just sittin’ here enjoyin’ the company. Plants got a lot to say, if you take the time to listen”
Eeyore
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Dec 26, 2015 6:31 AM CST
Yep, @orchidgal, Jan. 19. L4-L5-S1 fusion.
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Dec 26, 2015 10:05 AM CST
Best wishes for a successful surgery, Ken. My prayers will be with you.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Dec 26, 2015 10:44 AM CST
Thank you, Arlene.
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Plant Identifier
pirl
Dec 26, 2015 11:00 AM CST
Brain surgery is so much easier on the patient! I know.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Dec 26, 2015 11:10 AM CST
Thumbs up
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Dirt
(Zone 5b)
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dirtdorphins
Dec 26, 2015 1:07 PM CST
Bestest wishes to you Ken!!

I have, at various times, when I was short on time and long on work that needed to be done by a seasonal deadline (i.e. winter) and/or feeling charitable toward someone who needed to earn $, paid supposedly reputable folks to help me out with yard service. There have always been some relatively catastrophic disasters to contend with as a consequence of being unable to anticipate and prevent all of the possible 'accidents', but also a lot of good work got done--thankfully--and, with time, even the disasters can become funny stories that weave themselves into the history of the ever evolving gardens.
Of course, I have certainly perpetrated my share of my own disasters Smiling so there is that too.
Bestest wishes to you Deb!
Silver Spring, MD (Zone 7a)
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ssgardener
Dec 26, 2015 4:18 PM CST
A friend of mine desperately needed help with her extensive plantings and found help through the local gardening club. The helper had to move into an apartment and no longer had access to a garden, so she appreciated the opportunity to get her hands dirty again, and of course the extra cash didn't hurt. Smiling

This was the perfect solution for both people, and there was very little training needed, since the helper had been a serious gardener at one point.

I hope you're able to find the perfect person for your needs! Thumbs up
Name: Elfrieda
Indian Harbour Beach, Florida (Zone 10a)
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orchidgal
Dec 26, 2015 11:07 PM CST
Best wishes and lots of luck to you. Getting to know too many people with back problems; some have had surgery and some are undecided.
“I was just sittin’ here enjoyin’ the company. Plants got a lot to say, if you take the time to listen”
Eeyore
Name: Jim Goodman
Northeast Louisiana
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Jim41
Dec 27, 2015 5:15 AM CST
I suppose that I'm just contrary but no one does things to suit me. So I just putter along a little at a time until eventually it is done.
Jim41

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