Photo of Peruvian Lily (Alstroemeria 'Rosea'): This is not Alstroemeria pelegrina

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Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 4, 2015 1:23 PM CST
Sue, I think you were mis-informed when you purchased this plant.

Alstroemeria pelegrina is one of Chile's endemic Alstroemeria species (please see my entry for A. pelegrina) and is only found in pink (very different pink from your flowers) and, very rarely, in its white form (I have never seen one).

Your A. looks like a hybrid to me. It could have some A. pelegrina genes in it, but is definitely not an A. pelegrina variety/ssp. Please check the shape of the petals of my pictures and the look of their leaves.

ursula
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Dec 4, 2015 10:00 PM CST

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I didn't buy it, my caption says it was taken at a local nursery. I will just move or remove it.
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Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 4, 2015 10:40 PM CST
Sorry if I disappointed you, Sue.

After I wrote you, I made a Google-image search for A. pelegrina, and there was the A. of your picture (posted by a plant seller or nursery in California). I couldn't stop myself and wrote them a mail as well Sticking tongue out

Hugs,

ursula
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Dec 4, 2015 10:53 PM CST

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I've had this plant for a few years. I bought it from an Oregon nursery and it looks just like Sue's picture. In fact, all of the images I find on the Web of Alstroemeria pelegrina 'Rosea' look like Sue's photo, and then there's this description of 'Rosea' from the North Coast Journal: "It's a blushed coral color with a yellow flare on the inside of the top and bottom petals, and the usual reddish-brown markings which give them such a vivid and distinctive look."

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/a-recipe-for-popul...
Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 4, 2015 11:14 PM CST
Zuzu, this is a Google-Chile search for the species:

https://www.google.cl/search?hl=es&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sourc...

If the one Sue posted, or the one of the second row in Goodle-images were of the species, wouldn't it have to be either

A. pelegrina var. rosea or A. pelegrina ssp. rosea?

All the pictures you will find with the species name show definitively the one and only Alstroemeria pelegrina there is, with very characteristic petal shapes and colour (except for the one in fluor photoshop) and very characteristic leaves-disposal. I have heard there rarely occurs an A. pelegrina var. alba, but have never seen it - I haven't found picures either.

The one Sue posted and the one from the seller/nursery in Ca. whom I wrote today as well MIGHT have some A. pelegrina genes in its hybridization, but that makes it a hybrid and not a variety of the species.
Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 4, 2015 11:23 PM CST
Here's a link where you can see a picture of the white A. pelegrina:

http://www.chilebosque.cl/foro/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4306

Name: Zuzu
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Dec 5, 2015 12:35 AM CST

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I can see that the foliage is quite different in your photos of the species, so I can believe that it might be an interspecific hybrid. I'll remove the species name from the entry, but this is going to come up again and again because there are many nurseries selling this plant as A. pelegrina 'Rosea.'

By the way, there is no such thing as A. pelegrina var. rosea, A. pelegrina subsp. rosea, or A. pelegrina var. alba. They aren't even listed as synonyms in the major taxonomic databases. They may have been accepted names at one time, but it must have been very long ago.
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Dec 5, 2015 2:34 AM CST

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Mutisia said:Sorry if I disappointed you, Sue.

After I wrote you, I made a Google-image search for A. pelegrina, and there was the A. of your picture (posted by a plant seller or nursery in California). I couldn't stop myself and wrote them a mail as well Sticking tongue out

Hugs,

ursula


If you are talking about Emerisa? That's where I took my photo, it's about 10 minutes from me. Or did you mean Suncrest Nurseries which is also in Calif.?
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Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 5, 2015 12:40 PM CST
Zuzu, I mentioned A.p. var ... or A.p. ssp .... only as examples of how I think the 'rosea' should have been called IF it really were an A. pelegrina.

As to the white version of A. pelegrina, I think it can be an albino more than a var. I suggest the same for the pictures of A. angustifolia: among the population I photographed, there was just one (maybe 2) plants with white flowers.

In fact, I was able to recover my book "Alstroemerias de Chile" (will not lend any of my books again! - came back in poor conditions) by Melica Muñoz Schick, curator of the National Herbarium and Investigator of the botanical chapter of the National Museum of Nature History (her profession is Agronomical Engineer and she comes from and has also formed her own family of botnical investigators). Melica Muñoz has published many scientific investigations and books (I wished I had them all). In her book about Chilean native Alstroemerias she publishes a picture of a white A.p., but does not call her any different from the pink ones. I.S.B.N. 956-8201-02-5, Intellectual Property register Nbr. 135.054
Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 5, 2015 12:43 PM CST
Sue, yes, I wrote Emerisa more or less the same I told you. Only after a second view of the Google images I saw the pictures posted by the CA nursery, but felt it was more important to clarify things to ATP's PDB than to a nursery.
Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 8, 2015 11:46 PM CST
@zuzu, you removed 'pelegrina' from the search tool, but when you open the page it still calls this hybrid 'Alstroemeria pelegrina 'Rosea'.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 9, 2015 12:32 AM CST

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The page is called Alstroemeria 'Rosea.' When you open it, it says: Also sold as Alstroemeria pelegrina 'Rosea.' I see nothing wrong with that because it is the name used by several nurseries selling the plant.
Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Dec 9, 2015 1:14 AM CST
Sorry, Zuzu, I did not read the beginning of the line *Blush*

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