Hibiscus and Wildflower Swap: Questions and Answers

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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Dec 7, 2015 6:40 PM CST
If you have any questions concerning this swap please post them in this thread.
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Name: Morgan
IL (Zone 5b)
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molanic
Dec 12, 2015 10:09 AM CST
I did not notice anywhere a limit on the age of the seeds. The other swaps I do often limit it to seeds from the last 2 years and that is mostly what I have. But, I also have a few older ones that are probably still good. I store them in paper envelopes in storage totes with lots of silica gel packets, but do keep them at normal room temperatures. Will there be a restriction on seed age, or does anything go as long as the year is indicated in the list?

Also, is it okay to add things to the swap list where I don't have an exact species id? I'm thinking they can't be linked to the database that way though. I have a few things where I only know the genus for certain, or I may know it is one of three closely linked species for instance.

I plan to start adding things to my list this week. I'm just finishing up another swap and need to go over my quantities.

Thanks

Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Horntoad
Dec 12, 2015 10:45 AM CST
There is no age limit but I would add the information in the comments section. It's ok if all you know is the genus. Type the genus name into the plant name entry. When you are typing a name the system will try to match it with the database. If there is a generic genus entry for that plant you can select that or just leave it the without attaching to the database. Here is an example I did for Hibiscus. The top one is not attached to the database the second one is.
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Name: Morgan
IL (Zone 5b)
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molanic
Dec 19, 2015 10:30 AM CST
Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully I did it correctly. I figured out how to add images too and used the link in the image pop-up to link them to the plant database. Strangely though it still shows the "Associate with a plant in the database" link, even though I already did it.

If I have a question or suggestion about the new group swap system in general, where should I post that? I didn't see a forum for it that wasn't linked to a specific swap. I have been reading through the posts for the first swap to learn more about it, but was thinking I couldn't or shouldn't post there since I wasn't in that swap. Would the site talk forum be more appropriate?

If you aren't able to get the number of people you want to sign up for the swap, couldn't it just be combined with the other more general swap rather than totally canceling it. If I am understanding the new system correctly it would just be a matter of checking off items in our swap list as available in another joined swap, and we wouldn't have to recreate a swap list?

I hope enough people are willing to try out the new system. The post I made on the GardenWeb natives forum only got one reply saying, "it sounds too complicated and expensive." Sighing! To me it seems like it will probably be a vast improvement to handling large group swaps, and certainly easier than doing multiple trades separately with individuals.
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Dec 19, 2015 11:51 AM CST
I participated in the Beta swap so I am familiar with how it works, so you can ask here or if you what you can post in the Site Talk Forum and maybe reach a wider audience.
I don't think I will be cancelling this swap. The system was designed so that multiple swaps can be run simultaneously. Although we beta tested the swap program in a single swap, it has not been tested in a multi swap format. Some new bugs have already been discovered since DND and I created our swaps. I want to see it through to the end to help Dave make sure everything is working properly.
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Name: Morgan
IL (Zone 5b)
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molanic
Dec 22, 2015 5:17 PM CST
One question was about changing the sort order of the swap list, but I think I had already seen that asked in another thread. If I recall it is not possible.

My other question is about the availability options for the swap lists. I understand that the green check makes that seed show up for a particular swap. But, what are the other three options used for under "availability" when entering things onto your list? I just left mine set to "Show it and make available for trade" and set the check mark to green. If I wanted to remove something from a swap wouldn't I just uncheck the green check?
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Dec 23, 2015 10:45 AM CST
Hi Molanic,

Let me see if I can answer your question for you. Yes, if you uncheck the green mark, it will no longer show up for that swap. But, it will still show up in your master list. The other options for availability in your master list can be used for your own personal use. One says something like "available for trade but not ready" which you can chose for seeds you don't have packaged up yet. Then there is a "keep private" option to add seed you want to list but not show to the public at this time.

Hopefully I've answered some of your questions. Smiling
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Alana H
(Zone 7a)
Frogs and Toads Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter I helped beta test the first seed swap Keeper of Poultry Garden Ideas: Level 1
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poisondartfrog
Dec 23, 2015 10:58 AM CST
I'll add a little to what wildflowers explained. The system maintains your entire seed list for you, whether you have made them available to trade or not, or if you have some of them marked available for different swaps at the same time. Instead of clicking on 'access the full tradelist' at the top of your main swap page for this swap you could click at the bottom of the Seed Swaps home page http://garden.org/apps/swap/ and click on the "check out everyone else's list" link (or manage your own list only). There you will see everybody who has started a seed swap database whether they are engaged in a swap now or not. You can see everything in their inventory that is not marked private, even though you cannot request any seeds unless that person is in the same swap you are and has designated seeds to that particular swap. Yours is there too. I have entered seeds that I marked private because I may not get around to preparing them and I don't want people to think they will be available. Those don't show up in any list.
I hope I did not confuse you more. Smiling
Name: Morgan
IL (Zone 5b)
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molanic
Dec 24, 2015 9:45 AM CST
That clears it up, thank you both. I had forgotten about that "All Swap Lists" page where you could look at other people's master swap list even if they aren't in a swap.
Name: Jeanne
central Ohio (Zone 6a)
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NatureCrone
Jan 4, 2016 2:20 PM CST
Hi, I hope I didn't screw this up too bad. I signed up as Jeanne6oh, joined the swap and added my seeds, then noticed that I could change my user name. I changed my name to NatureCrone and now the page says I don't have any offerings, but Jeanne6oh still does. I don't want to repost the seeds if everyone else is going to get confused about how many are available. Is there any way to fix this?
Name: Alana H
(Zone 7a)
Frogs and Toads Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter I helped beta test the first seed swap Keeper of Poultry Garden Ideas: Level 1
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poisondartfrog
Jan 4, 2016 3:50 PM CST
Jeanne, since you have gone back and added duplicate entries under the name NatureCrone, for purposes of the swap that opens tonight I think you should go back in and delete all of the Jeanne entries to avoid confusion.
Or make them unavailable to the swap so they don't show up.
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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Jan 4, 2016 4:09 PM CST
NatureCrone, that might be something that Dave can fix. Let's ask @dave.
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Jeanne
central Ohio (Zone 6a)
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NatureCrone
Jan 4, 2016 4:17 PM CST
Alana, it is acting as if I am a different person than Jeanne6oh, I can't do anything with that listing. I checked my mail a few moments after I posted above, I got a message from Jay telling me to add my plants. I didn't realize at the time he had written me 10 minutes before I posted the question.

Christine, thanks so much. I sure hope Dave can fix it.
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Name: Alana H
(Zone 7a)
Frogs and Toads Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter I helped beta test the first seed swap Keeper of Poultry Garden Ideas: Level 1
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poisondartfrog
Jan 4, 2016 4:21 PM CST
That does sound like a job for Dave.
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jan 4, 2016 4:30 PM CST
poisondartfrog said:That does sound like a job for Dave.


When I sent it I had no idea that both names were one person.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jan 4, 2016 5:04 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

This is now fixed (both for this user, and the bug that allowed it to occur in the first place.)
Name: Jeanne
central Ohio (Zone 6a)
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NatureCrone
Jan 4, 2016 5:36 PM CST
Thank you! My list is fixed and ready to go!
Name: Julie Hyde
Ocean Springs, MS (coastal) (Zone 8b)
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froggiesgirl
Jan 5, 2016 12:20 PM CST
Is it too late to add seeds to the swap list. I just participated in a swap and I don't need as many seeds that are in the baggies. Thanks, Julie
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Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
Charter ATP Member Birds Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Winter Sowing Herbs
Critters Allowed Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Composter
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wildflowers
Jan 5, 2016 12:46 PM CST
Froggiesgirl, you can still add seeds to you have list. Thumbs up
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jan 5, 2016 1:29 PM CST
You can add seeds any time throughout the swap.
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