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Dec 8, 2015 9:43 AM CST
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Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
I live in Iowa and want to know if it is a good idea or a bad idea to sow seeds in my raised beds on top of the soil right now? Our temps are in the mid to upper 40's in the daytime. I am hoping to get a jump on spring seed sowing so I get earlier plant. These seeds include coneflower, daylily, Columbine, Delphenium, Allium, among others.
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Dec 8, 2015 9:46 AM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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I would go for it! I winter sow in containers every year. I cannot believe how well it works.
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Dec 8, 2015 5:54 PM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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Yes!----go for it!
It all depends on the weather up here in zone 3 .
I am direct sowing onto the flower beds.
It may be a gamble, but it may work out too.
I had the best stand of Iceland poppies one year that I sowed onto snow in the late fall.
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Dec 8, 2015 7:53 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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I'd say that anything that will self-sow should do fine (which would certainly include at least the coneflower, columbine and allium for me).
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Dec 8, 2015 11:05 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Go for it!! Just be aware that if you plant on soil, even if liugfhtly covered, birds and critters may enjoy some of your seed.
Over the years I have had very good luck with Fall/Winter seeding.
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Dec 9, 2015 5:30 AM CST
Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
Old, fat, and gardening in OH
See (as in google) wintersown.org, and cold stratification.
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Dec 9, 2015 9:05 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Coppice said:See (as in google) wintersown.org, and cold stratification.


or the "Winter Sowing" forum right here on ATP... although planting on the open ground isn't really the same thing as "winter sowing." Smiling
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Dec 9, 2015 9:33 AM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
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Weedwhacker said:

or the "Winter Sowing" forum right here on ATP... although planting on the open ground isn't really the same thing as "winter sowing." Smiling


Actually it was for thousands of years before someone decided to toss some seeds in a milk container. nodding That was first described not that long ago in the larger scheme on a thread in GardenWeb.
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Dec 9, 2015 10:47 AM CST
Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
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I live in Iowa too and I am thinking I might be able to prepare a few spots where I want some seeds planted. All of these would be native plants that prefer fall or winter sowing.
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Dec 9, 2015 11:01 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
Thank you everyone for your great responses. I am going to give it a try in at least a couple of the beds. I will be sure to post my results in the spring. These raised beds are new. They have not had anything grown in them before so I should not have much of a problem recognizing the flowers that I sow.
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Dec 10, 2015 12:06 AM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Wow Jeanne - impressive beds!! Thumbs up Looks like the beds are ready to go - so you have a small amount of time and a small investment. If they take - great. If not you can over plant in later Spring.
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Dec 10, 2015 5:57 AM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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Region: Canadian Enjoys or suffers cold winters Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
With nice raised beds like that,--- you could keep critters from taking seeds by using a clear plastic sheet over the bed too. Remove it as soon as you see sprouts.
Weed seeds may blow onto the beds over the winter.
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Dec 10, 2015 8:59 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
CarolineScott said:With nice raised beds like that,--- you could keep critters from taking seeds by using a clear plastic sheet over the bed too. Remove it as soon as you see sprouts.
Weed seeds may blow onto the beds over the winter.


I think I'd opt for "floating row cover"; wouldn't plastic be likely to "cook" the seedlings on a sunny day?
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Dec 10, 2015 9:38 AM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
Seed Starter Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 1
I agree The clear plastic is not the way to go.
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Dec 10, 2015 11:34 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
Thanks for your advice. I did go out and sow some seeds in one of the beds. I took odd and end pieces of rods and sticks and made cube spaces to put different type of seeds in. Some I did not know the name of or what they will become. I hope to sow more seeds but it is very windy here today.

Thank you for the compliments on my raised beds. This is my 2nd raised bed area. It has 8 beds. The first area has 10 raised beds just like this one. Right now all 10 of them are planted with purple and yellow Iris, dwarf Iris, Tiger Lily babies, and many other odd and end flowers. I am anxious to see what comes back. I plan to pot most of these and sell them at farmers markets next spring/summer/fall. I plan to plant my veggies in the 10 bed area so I will need to get these iris, lilies , and others out before the veggies can go in. These 10 beds are lined on the inside with hard plastic so the treated lumber does not affect the veggies. The other 8 beds in the 2nd area do not have this done to them.
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Dec 10, 2015 11:52 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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>> These 10 beds are lined on the inside with hard plastic

I hope you only lined the walls with plastic. If you cover the "floor" with plastic, the bed won't drain well and could flood after a rain. Like a bathtub.

But you probably already know that. *Blush*
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Dec 12, 2015 10:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
I lined the bottom of all my raised beds with small hole chicken wire to keep the moles out of them. We stapled the chicken wire to the bottom of the wood frame. I have enough trouble with moles coming in from the fields, I did not want them in my raised beds too.
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Dec 12, 2015 10:53 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
Thanks DavidLMO for the thumbs up.
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Dec 12, 2015 10:57 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
Seed Starter Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 1
Those beds look and sound delectable. Show us some pics next summer. Green Grin!
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