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Name: Treehugger
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treehugger
Dec 9, 2015 10:35 AM CST
I've been growing this for awhile and I think its about time I learned the proper name for it. Does anyone have any ideas to help me out?



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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Dec 10, 2015 8:15 AM CST
Gave me a Peperomia vibe.
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Name: Treehugger
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treehugger
Dec 10, 2015 11:33 AM CST
Peperomia got me excited. However my stems are never red and the foliage does not sit on the stems but has little stems about 1 to
1 1/2" keeping the foliage up from the vine stem. The reddish white is an air root because I keep forgetting to water it.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Dec 10, 2015 2:11 PM CST
Have you ever seen flowers on your plant? My first thought was Peperomia too, not all Peperomia's have red stems, do they? . For comparison check out Peperomia glabella Then I thought perhaps Peruvian Grape Ivy (Cissus rotundifolia) but the leaves aren't right for that. It also reminds me a lot of:
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Name: Treehugger
Hanover Twp, PA (Zone 6a)
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treehugger
Dec 10, 2015 2:49 PM CST
Is that your Hoya? I lust after them. They hate me. My husband grows them in his office and if I go in to visit him the leaves start to shake. If I even touch Hoya they die. Every hoya I tried to grow dies for me that is why they are in his office. That picture shows that it is very healthy. I was looking at Peperomia urocarpa which has similar foliage but it does have red stems.

Plantomaniac08
Dec 10, 2015 6:34 PM CST
I have no earthly idea what that is, but me like. Lovey dubby Drooling *Blush*
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plantladylin
Dec 10, 2015 6:36 PM CST
It reminds me of another possibility - Dischidia: http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Dischidia&button=
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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Dec 11, 2015 8:14 AM CST
Tree, that's the same Pep species I encountered trying to ID your plant, but also came to the conclusion that it wasn't exactly the same, but only based on the very few pics I could find. The whorl of 3 leaves per node eliminates a lot of things, but I wasn't able to find an exact match.
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Name: Treehugger
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treehugger
Dec 11, 2015 9:23 AM CST
It is pretty old. I can't find the tag when I bought it of course I've many tags to go through. I've never seen it bloom. Hopefully it isn't one of those monocarpic plants. I'll see the flower be able to ID it and then it'll die on me. Confused Thanks for your thoughts.
Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Dec 11, 2015 9:37 AM CST
Hmm... mentioning a tag makes me think it might have come from EA. The P. japonica on their page is promising, Glasshouse Works has a better pic of it.
http://www.glasshouseworks.com/image/cache/data/images23/Pep...

P. orba might be another to consider, brief search didn't yield a pic from which I could determine leaf arrangement, but I didn't look for long or attempt to find written description. Having a memory that P. orba may not be an accepted name. Could be something to check if you think it's a candidate, (not just my possible faulty memory.)
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Name: Deborah Pryor
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Deebie
Dec 11, 2015 10:07 AM CST
Tiffany I agree with you about the plant being a peperomia. I have Peperomia hoffmannii aka Isabella from EA and I just looked at the leaves. They form clusters of anywhere from 3 to 5 leaves. But the leaves on my plant are very tiny. Here's another link to P. Japonica -- http://www.neherpetoculture.com/peperomia
Name: Treehugger
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treehugger
Dec 11, 2015 11:54 AM CST
Those peperomia have opposite foliage not trifoliage foliage. Off one stem mine has a whorl of three leaflets. You can see what I'm talking about in my last picture I posted.
Name: Treehugger
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treehugger
Dec 11, 2015 12:34 PM CST
I found the tag it is Neoalsmitra sarcophylla. It use to have variegated foliage and because I didn't pull off the green ones over time it is now all green. Enclosed not a very good picturre of when I first grew it.
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Plantomaniac08
Dec 11, 2015 12:48 PM CST
I tried googling that and couldn't find anything. Is there a synonym for that name? Confused
Name: Deborah Pryor
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Deebie
Dec 11, 2015 2:22 PM CST
Beth, I finally found a link to DG where that plant is pictured with lots of missing data. I clicked on the website to the one vender listed Peppers Greenhouses. This is what I found listed on their online catalog: A cucurbet (misspelled) vine from Burma with lance shaped leaves in sets of 3 produces big clusters of small straw colored flowers..let dry between waterings. I don't know how reliable his descriptions are, but I do know that his reviews on DG Plantscout are terrible. Here is what I originally intended to post:

Treehugger, did you check out the link above that I posted? Looking at your last picture, your plant has all of the qualities of a watermelon peperomia. It does look a lot like the last once pictured, the NOID, which sounds a lot like the descriptions of peperomia japonica. People sometimes make names up just to get unsuspecting buyers to purchase from them. JMHO.

Name: Treehugger
Hanover Twp, PA (Zone 6a)
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treehugger
Dec 11, 2015 2:23 PM CST
I forgot it has been awhile but I posted a picture of this about 9 years ago on Dave's Garden. It was already totally green by then 2009.
Sorry for all your trouble, I just lost the name and old age has set in. Lovey dubby

Plantomaniac08
Dec 11, 2015 2:26 PM CST
This is true about made up names. I have hamsters and you'd be surprised by all the names they give the same species of hamster lol. But I've seen that with plants too. It just adds to the confusion, especially if you're new to plants. Thumbs down
Name: Treehugger
Hanover Twp, PA (Zone 6a)
Region: United States of America Region: Northeast US Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers Miniature Gardening Herbs
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treehugger
Dec 11, 2015 4:40 PM CST
I looked it up on the web and found it under Bihrmann's caudiciform. Picture is a perfect match for my foliage. I grow some peperomia and it really isn't peperomia. I'm enclosing another picture of my plant you can see the caudiciform in the center of the foliage that is always hidden by foliage.
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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Dec 12, 2015 6:44 AM CST
Neoalsomitra sarcophylla
http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms/subs/neo-sar-sub.asp
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/137036/

Never heard of it! Looks like a match though.
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Name: Deborah Pryor
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Deebie
Dec 12, 2015 8:03 AM CST
Thank You! for letting know about this interesting plant. Thumbs up Sorry about the confusion though. Whistling BTW, Why did you post that link? I'm just kidding, I think. It has me Drooling ing all over the place. I hope that it's not going to lead to another addiction. Lovey dubby It's nice to know that some of the plants/bulbs I already have are listed as caudiciforms and peperomias are included. nodding Sorry, I have to go, I've got some more browsing to do. Thumbs up

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