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Dec 12, 2015 9:28 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lucky
Sacramento CA (Zone 9b)
Plumerias
Just got my box of plumeria cuttings I bought from Ken (Drdawg) yesterday evening.
I got home late and my wife surprised me with my box of plumeria cuttings. I went to get the box cutter to open it and wife said I had to wait. Sad She said she wanted to be the first one to see them and she was tired and going to bed. So, I now have to wait Glare Well, she went to bed and I decided to put it under the Christmas tree.
It's been a few years since I was this excited to open a box that was under the Christmas tree.
Looks like Christmas is coming 2 weeks early for us! Big Grin

Question:
How many cuttings should I put per 5 gal bucket?
Where do you suggest would be the best place to have them stored over the winter? (dark, partial light, over 50, 60 degrees etc etc)

Going to go buy some coarse perlite. Which reminds me is coarse perlite the big chunks or small pebbles?
Lucky Patrick
Last edited by luckyzl230 Dec 12, 2015 10:14 AM Icon for preview
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Dec 12, 2015 10:11 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Coarse will be small pebbles. You can easily put all the cuttings in a single bucket. I just tie 5 together with soft cord or with twist-tie material (plastic coated wire found in any big-box store such as Lowe's). I will tie near the bottom and then about 2-3's up so that the bundle will be nice and stable. I would have about 3-4" of perlite on the bottom, put that bundle onto the perlite (you can tilt the bundle so that it rests on the lip of the bucket) and then add another 3-4" over the bases. That's it. Just keep the bucket in a warmish place, above 50F. It does not matter whether it is dark or not. All I do is mist those tiny, terminal leaves every few weeks. If you have some air movement that's better but not critical. I have my buckets in my "Everything Else" greenhouse and there are always fans running. Being in a greenhouse, my cuttings gets lots of bright light and even direct sunlight this time of year won't hurt them a bit. If a bit of moisture gets into the perlite, no big deal. If a lot of water gets in and makes the perlite really moist, just remove everything, re-do with fresh perlite, and away you go. Don't throw the wet perlite away. Use it in potting media or let it dry out and its ready to go again.

Those plants had an interesting journey. You would have gotten them three days earlier if your CA Dept. of Agriculture had not confiscated them when they arrived at your post office. Angry A crappy dog sniffed them out. My tax dollars at work. Sticking tongue out

I am now considering NOT shipping anything to CA other than epiphytic plants. I have shipped to CA for over five years and now in the last two months, I have had two boxes of plants intercepted. The first was a box of two, 3' fiddle leaf ficus plants. They destroyed these beautiful, healthy plants, claiming they found some dirt there. I don't use dirt to grow my fiddles, only peat, sphagnum, and perlite. The agent could not have cared less when I told her this. To her, it was dirt, and that was that. Naturally, I refunded everything to that customer and took the hit. The agent I spoke to about the plumeria was actually very nice to me. He was out of the Sacramento office. He said those fiddles were supposed to have been returned to me since they were shipped Priority Mail. He did not have a clue why the agent (in S. CA) would destroy the plants rather than ship them back to me.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 12, 2015 3:42 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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Good grief, what a pain. It reminds me of when we went to Hawaii. I did buy plants but shipped them all home. When we got to the airport the agent asked if I had any live plants (he did not ask my husband) and when I told him "no" he asked again and mentioned I could buy legally inspected plants at the airport gift shop. I repeated I did not have any plants and he proceeded to inspect my luggage. Before I got on that plane my luggage was inspected 5 times. Someone was sure I was trying to smuggle plants. DH was hysterical and said I obviously had the look of a plant smuggler. Maybe a dog had picked up a scent of plant material because I often do have plants in my luggage.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Dec 12, 2015 4:33 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Rolling on the floor laughing With the combination of TSA and plant "agents", you would probably have been shackled and questions asked later. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 12, 2015 7:04 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Dec 14, 2015 1:13 AM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
That is horrible. I traveled for business up to 4 yrs ago. I never once came home without having plants in my luggage and never was caught. Maybe because I was a frequent flyer but I never had any problems.

Ken I have to T-mail you.
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Dec 14, 2015 7:39 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Thumbs up
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 14, 2015 7:48 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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Cinta, I think it depends on where you are flying into and out of. For example there are regulations against bringing any plant or even fruits or vegetables into California and if you have a connecting flight that lands there you are supposed to dump it. Once I even had to dump a small package of baby carrots I had brought along for a snack on the plane. We were top tier frequent fliers at that time.

Last year when we vacationed at Lake Tahoe we had flown into Reno which is across the border in Nevada. There is actually a checkpoint on the state line and we were stopped and asked about plants, fruits and veggies. DH just said "NO" and we drove on. We had stopped at a Whole Foods near the airport for provisions for the week so I felt like a criminal the whole time. Shrug!

Florida and Texas have the same regs but they are not as vigilant about it and there are no checkpoints for the general public. I know FL has inspection pull offs along the highway near the state borders where the truckers stop and have their cargo inspected. It is sort of like the weigh stations but they look for contraband insects and diseases instead.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Dec 14, 2015 12:31 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
Alice most of the places I had to go to you were not suppose to bring plants and fruit back. Puerto Rico is very strict. I had to be there three times a year. What can I say. *Blush*
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Dec 14, 2015 1:22 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
Container Gardener Charter ATP Member Garden Photography Butterflies Tropicals Ponds
I think some places are just not as vigilant as California is. I bring plants and fruit back from Florida all the time myself. Regulations are understandable though, we have citrus greening disease in my home county because diseased trees were brought in from FL. Now we are under quarantine also. Sad that there are so many bugs out there.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Dec 14, 2015 1:24 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
It is unfortunate, Alice.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 14, 2015 4:44 PM CST
Name: charles
Anderson, S.C (Zone 8b)
@drdawg Ken do you have any of the plumeria cuttings left?
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Dec 14, 2015 5:24 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I do, Charles. This is a listing of what I had a month ago. I know I will have the majority of these (I can still take cuttings if need be) but I might not have everything on that list. Just pick out what you want, how many you want, and T-Mail me that information. I will confirm what I have and we'll go from there. You can see pictures of the flowers of these plumeria on my website.

Cuttings:

1. Rose Red - Two single tip, one with inflo.
2. Malaysian Red - One single tip and one with 3-tips and inflo.
3. Celadine - Several, some with 2 and 3 tips and a couple with inflo.
4. Scott Pratt - Single tip and 2-tip, one a grafted plant and one 2-tip with inflo.
5. Slaughter Pink - Single tip
6. Vera Cruz Rose - Single tip
7. NOID that has bloomed with dark pink, fragrant flowers.
8. Seedling NOID that hasn't yet bloomed but the seedpod parent is Charlotte Ebert. These seedlings are 1 1/2 years old and are thick and extra-long.

Rooted Plants (other than the Vera Cruz Rose, all these are only available as single plants):

1. Vera Cruz Rose (2)
2. Celadine
3. Scott Pratt
4. Riviera Rainbow
5. Green Tara aka Agave seed-pot parent - This is supposed to bloom as a red.
6. NOID that bloomed white and fragrant
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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